They haven't. They have had a lockdown and the virus escape from there to Vic and Qld.
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They haven't. They have had a lockdown and the virus escape from there to Vic and Qld.
They haven't. They have had lock downs.
They had a hotel quarantine cluster over December that spread across the state, mystery cases and all, which even spread here.
Which we managed. Then they managed.
SA had a hotel quarantine failure which they managed with a lockdown.
WA had a hotel quarantine failure they managed with a lockdown.
Queensland had a hotel quarantine failure they managed with a lockdown.
Get used to it people.
Not for cafes and food stores whose core business is dining in. A lot have already gone under.
I'll give credit to Dan for learning The second wave took hold partly because initial restrictions were moderate, and then gradually tightened after the horse had bolted. As much as the lockdown's a pain in the arse, once it gets beyond control it needs to be hit hard.
He has taken the tougher option for himself here.
Be pissed at the fact there has been another outbreak requiring lockdown, but don't get pissed at the lockdown. UK, US, all over the world. That's what happens when you try to delay a lockdown for as long as possible.
And the end of this, whenever that is, you may find that on a percentage basis, more Australians came through it alive than most other countries in the world.
And the end of this, whenever that is, you may find that on a percentage basis, more Australians came through it alive than most other countries in the world.
Some numbers on fly-ins
Vic 1,066/35,666 = 2.99% infected
NSW 2,956/124,893 = 2.37% infected
overall 2.50% = 1 in 40 returning travellers is carrying the virus
Needs a rethink methinks.
Vic 1,066/35,666 = 2.99% infected
NSW 2,956/124,893 = 2.37% infected
overall 2.50% = 1 in 40 returning travellers is carrying the virus
Needs a rethink methinks.
He also made the proposal, almost a year ago, that hotel quarantine was the way to go.
He also heavily backed another proposal to allow over 1000 non-residents to come participate in a few games of tennis. I see no compassion there; others are left stranded.
Did the additional quarantine staffing numbers required result in a reduced level of competency of staffing in non-tennis hotels?
Did this lead to a failure of systems, near a year in the making, which meant the quarantine staff did not have adequate training to know, instruct, and then inspect what items are permitted within into the quarantine hotel system?
Are the wrong quarantine stations being used?
Somehow, somewhere, somebody *smile* up. Twice.
Someone ought to be accountable, however, there's probably a creeping assumption that it's nobody's responsibility.
Well in this case its pretty clearly the person who hid their nebuliser.
And I wrote that, before I had read this:
‘I feel like a criminal’: Traveller says he told authorities about nebuliser
A returned traveller blamed for spreading coronavirus through the Holiday Inn says he was repeatedly given permission to use the medical device.
Somehow, somewhere, somebody *smile* up
Or, the quarantine staff are not adequately trained to know, instruct, and then inspect what items are permitted within into the quarantine hotel system.
‘I feel like a criminal’: Traveller says he told authorities about nebuliser
A returned traveller blamed for spreading coronavirus through the Holiday Inn says he was repeatedly given permission to use the medical device.
Or, the quarantine staff are not adequately trained to know, instruct, and then inspect what items are permitted within into the quarantine hotel system.
‘I feel like a criminal’: Traveller says he told authorities about nebuliser
A returned traveller blamed for spreading coronavirus through the Holiday Inn says he was repeatedly given permission to use the medical device.www.theage.com.au
He said she said.
I am hoping that the professional sports exemption continues through the winter so I can watch the Tiges in lockdown IV.Tennis players are considered essential workers
Yes let's lock the entire state down and stop small business owners from earning a living, yet again, but it is absolutely essential that tennis players continue to play a game that no one can go and watch, when they shouldn't be here in the first place, just so they can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars and potentially more.
Sounds very legitimate. Nice one Dan.
Maybe?
He said he didn't have an nebuliser. She said OK and ticked a box. Obviously, she didn't check.
It seems that the quarantine staff were not adequately trained to know, instruct, and then inspect what items are taken into the hotel quarantine system.
Well it got out, not really surprising.
I have said a few times that I would prefer to see quarantine close to the airport but more isolated than, say, the hotel across the road. FFS I reckon tents in Albert Park might be a better option than a pile of rooms, all next to each other, with f*** all ventilation, an air conditioning system shared by the whole building etc.
I reckon cabins in caravan parks would be good, book the place out, buy local produce and lots of people would be happy.
But, they seem wedded to hotel quarantine, so, within the limits of what the powers that be seem to find acceptable, how about this: hotel quarantine only in hotels where each room has a balcony. They keep talking about the need to put people in rooms where there is an exchange of air, put them in a bloody room with a balcony and tell them to open the balcony door.
While we are considering options, there are a few things to remember form this outbreak. There are 13 cases, 13, and that took a few days. The USA would be happy with 13,000 in a day. The cases have so far not gone beyond direct contacts with those who caught it at the hotel, ie: returned travellers and people working there. Now, this is the worry as we can't be sure it hasn't gone more than one person from those in the hotel, but we currently have no evidence that it has. This is the reason for the short hard lockdown, if it has gone further we need to stop it now. Now is the time to try and control it, now is the time for a short hard lockdown. It was a smart move in NSW, SA and Qld, it is a smart move here.
The tennis is a bad look, but they are s*** scared of losing the Grand Slam tournament. When you see all the international travellers in a normal year in Melbourne for the Aus Open you can understand it. I'm not interested in tennis except to see Ash Tiger Tragic Barty win. No idea why they couldn't let the surfers in, it's even an outdoor event.
As for the guy working in the coffee shop at the airport, one presumes he was wearing a mask (that was the rule at the time of the shift), and wearing it properly? If so, the chances of him transmitting the virus would be greatly reduced. I hope he wasn't wearing his mask over his chin or not over his nose.
The nebuliser should never have been allowed - Voldemort needs to get his s*** together and run homeland security better.
DS
I have said a few times that I would prefer to see quarantine close to the airport but more isolated than, say, the hotel across the road. FFS I reckon tents in Albert Park might be a better option than a pile of rooms, all next to each other, with f*** all ventilation, an air conditioning system shared by the whole building etc.
I reckon cabins in caravan parks would be good, book the place out, buy local produce and lots of people would be happy.
But, they seem wedded to hotel quarantine, so, within the limits of what the powers that be seem to find acceptable, how about this: hotel quarantine only in hotels where each room has a balcony. They keep talking about the need to put people in rooms where there is an exchange of air, put them in a bloody room with a balcony and tell them to open the balcony door.
While we are considering options, there are a few things to remember form this outbreak. There are 13 cases, 13, and that took a few days. The USA would be happy with 13,000 in a day. The cases have so far not gone beyond direct contacts with those who caught it at the hotel, ie: returned travellers and people working there. Now, this is the worry as we can't be sure it hasn't gone more than one person from those in the hotel, but we currently have no evidence that it has. This is the reason for the short hard lockdown, if it has gone further we need to stop it now. Now is the time to try and control it, now is the time for a short hard lockdown. It was a smart move in NSW, SA and Qld, it is a smart move here.
The tennis is a bad look, but they are s*** scared of losing the Grand Slam tournament. When you see all the international travellers in a normal year in Melbourne for the Aus Open you can understand it. I'm not interested in tennis except to see Ash Tiger Tragic Barty win. No idea why they couldn't let the surfers in, it's even an outdoor event.
As for the guy working in the coffee shop at the airport, one presumes he was wearing a mask (that was the rule at the time of the shift), and wearing it properly? If so, the chances of him transmitting the virus would be greatly reduced. I hope he wasn't wearing his mask over his chin or not over his nose.
The nebuliser should never have been allowed - Voldemort needs to get his s*** together and run homeland security better.
DS
Are you absolutely sure.
The whole Gov't lied/had amnesia failed to take responsibility for the 2nd wave caused by Hotel Quarantine failure , could it be the same with nebuliser?.
There might be another enquiry where all authorities deny/ can't remember being notified of its use
.‘I feel like a criminal’: Traveller says he told authorities about nebuliser
A returned traveller blamed for spreading coronavirus through the Holiday Inn says he was repeatedly given permission to use the medical device.
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What does ScoMo actually do at work,
other than chair the national cabinet and look at his feet when they discuss actions?
states do quarantine, fight bushfires, try and fix the Murray darling
when China invade, will we have 8 different little Armys?
other than chair the national cabinet and look at his feet when they discuss actions?
states do quarantine, fight bushfires, try and fix the Murray darling
when China invade, will we have 8 different little Armys?
Sensational ... Tennis match just stopped and all spectators told to leave the building as you have 30 minutes to get home ! (Or presumably get arrested)
Don't recall seeing KRudd on a hose down here in Vic on Black Saturday. Which without understating the enormity of last summers disaster in NSw was far worse for Vicoria in terms of human life and destruction of towns and homes.
Actually don't recall anyone back then saying where was KRudd?
We have been "doing fires" down here for 150 years, without Canberra.
But let's Balkanise Aus and the footy can become the global sport Gill wants it to be.
