Dr John Campbell (UK Health Analyst) says omicron is becoming endemic and should be over by February and March next year.
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John Campbell is not an infectious diseases expert. His videos online (that Lamby links to a lot) are designed to appease and appeal to conspiracy theorists. He wouldn't have a clue when this was going to end. I wouldn't have thought he was a credible reference. He was a nurse and his phd is in nursing education, hardly providing him the expertise to comment on what he is frequently.
I had a discussion with my family over the weekend and they were concerned about cases going up in the UK, but as I said to them, hospitalisations are not increasing which is a great sign,
Plenty of people I know are having their Christmas' completely shafted by the tsunami of covid right now. Either they have it or they've been forced into quarantine.
Cancellations in hospitality & travel. Family & friend gatherings suddenly less appealing as we wait for boosters. Letting it rip eg 'opening up' might completely backfire. So much uncertainty out there.
Cancellations in hospitality & travel. Family & friend gatherings suddenly less appealing as we wait for boosters. Letting it rip eg 'opening up' might completely backfire. So much uncertainty out there.
Thanks for that...Rob Karvelas.
Would you believe, I missed it by "that much"?
Seriously though....we are going to have repeated covid cases amongst AFL squads..repeatedly.
This is going to make the season farcical.
What's the answer?
It has to be carry on regardless..otherwise the season will be a joke.
That will mean ignoring covid positive cases and not isolating.
That's my view..what do others think?
This is going to make the season farcical.
What's the answer?
It has to be carry on regardless..otherwise the season will be a joke.
That will mean ignoring covid positive cases and not isolating.
That's my view..what do others think?
As long as hospitalisations remain at a low level I totally agree with you.
The UK for example, have yet to see an increase in hospitalisations despite the increasing cases, shutting down will just hide the severity of the disease, only time will tell if hospitalisations increase but I think we need to remain open to find out if that occurs. Europe seems to have different ideas though and have starting shutting down already.
But the EPL are isolating players who are positive and having to reschedule games.
So they are not playing regardless.
I see Chelsea drew with Wolves with a depleted team.
Can you imagine most of the team isolating and the seconds losing to Wolves and there goes the title.
Melbourne University epidemiologist Tony Blakely said it was “bordering on unethical” to deny early booster shots to people aged over 60 in Victoria and NSW who had two AstraZeneca doses, as preliminary research showed it gave low protection against the new variant.
University of South Australia epidemiologist Adrian Esterman said ATAGI was “being way too conservative ... and it’s going to cause a lot of unwarranted infections.”
“If you’ve had two doses of AstraZeneca — and that’s the majority of older people in Australia — you have almost zero protection against being infected by Omicron,” he said.
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University of South Australia epidemiologist Adrian Esterman said ATAGI was “being way too conservative ... and it’s going to cause a lot of unwarranted infections.”
“If you’ve had two doses of AstraZeneca — and that’s the majority of older people in Australia — you have almost zero protection against being infected by Omicron,” he said.
ATAGI to consider three-dose vaccine schedule as states push for earlier boosters
Australians may soon have to get a third dose to be considered fully vaccinated, as an expert taskforce weighs the evidence on the Omicron variant’s ability to evade vaccines and state governments push for earlier boosters.
But everyone else will be a close contact.
So there is a real chance the whole team will be prohibited from playing.
The odd game can be rescheduled but eventually a very weakened team will have to play and will lose to a poor side potentially costing a finals berth or worse.
I don't see this as an option.
I really think it will have to be play on regardless .
he also said Japan's drop in Covid cases was due to Ivermectin on the basis of a google translated article which mentioned a Japanese doctor calling for more testing for ivermectin.
He's a fraud.
The major problem is for those who have young kids as they're still not able to be vaccinated. Yes I know that they're not hugely affected but players with families will be naturally concerned at having their kids exposed to the virus & all that goes with it (long covid etc.) It's still very much unknown territory what the effects of being exposed are..
That's a distinct possibility, not sure we will see any more lockdowns as the effectiveness is dubious given the compliance gets lower with each lockdown.
We do have to look at this a little differently to the UK as we do have much higher vaccination rates. Lots of talk about vaccines being less effective over time at preventing infection, but they do remain pretty good for preventing serious disease, hospitalisation and death. I suspect that the vaccine effectiveness in terms of hospitalisation, combined with high vaccination rates and we are in summer, is part of the explanation for ATAGI not bringing forward 3rd doses. If the hospitalisation rate remains low even in the face of higher infection numbers then it looks an ok decision. Much to consider in this.
Meanwhile, in a vain attempt to look like they are actually doing something, the Feds have called a National Cabinet meeting. Political grandstanding to deflect from their previous f*** ups.
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They can't close borders again. Separated families won't cop it.
That said it's an absolute joke that NSW is on a different page to Victoria, Queensland & the rest of the country.
2 years later & still entirely different protocols on how to deal with this thing.
That said it's an absolute joke that NSW is on a different page to Victoria, Queensland & the rest of the country.
2 years later & still entirely different protocols on how to deal with this thing.
agree. there will no point closing borders by then. WA maybe, but even then they would be committing to keeping them shut for possibly years as the likelihood is covid will stay.
Well, that's another set of cancelled flights for me, and very upset Grand Parents who haven't seen the kids in over 2 years now. *smile* this virus, the inept government handling it and all the stupid *smile* nutters muddying the waters with *smile* ivermictin, dettol cocktails and ultra-violet rectal probes
My wife and I and our two little kids are booked to fly up to SE QLD for a break over late Jan into early Feb (from our home in TAS). To be honest, I'm looking at pulling the pin already. All looks too hard. I'm guessing the spread in QLD will be quite rapid because of the pure volume of movement between NSW and QLD over the next few weeks. Which then brings into possibility a whole host of extra management measures.
It could be limited amounts of people allowed into hotel pools, limited crowds at places like Wet 'N Wild, Seaworld etc. So you end up enjoying a holiday sitting in a hotel room with two bored kids squabbling. Then if we happen to come into contact with a case on our flight, you open up the possibility of ending up in quarantine either when we arrive in QLD or flying home to TAS. That's even if we get on a flight, because you may not get your COVID test back in time to get on the flight, such is the strain that testers are under.
It all seems too hard to be honest. Easier just to stay home, or perhaps go away locally for a few nights.
A bit like mandatory mask wearing checking in etc. I'll comply where I'm supposed to (essentially, public indoor settings like shops and public transport) but will minimise when I need to. Which means I minimise going into shops, can't be arsed going to a pub or restaurant. Or just do outdoor things like take the kids to the oval to play some scratch match sport together, go for a ride on our bikes, go for a swim, or just stay home and do some landscaping/gardening. While it's good for my bank balance, doesn't really help businesses.
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I agree it’s barbaric but they will want to do something if NSW hits 10k a day. All of the states will do what’s best for them.
We have no unity.
