Changes for Round 4

[Tigers2011]

I'm not entirely sure of this. Didn't notice it so much last week (might have had my head in my hands!) but we were getting killed in centre clearances in the last quarter against Carlton.

The other aspect would be the quality of the centre clearances, Carlton's were clean and unpressured, are ours also clean and unpressured? Delivery into the forward line suggests they aren't.

I agree around the ground clearances are an issue, we are losing the contested possessions (374 to 403) and we seem completely unable to spread and get clean delivery to the forward line.

The defence has no chance if the ball is coming in quickly and without any pressure.

DS

Forward line pressure has also been poor - part structural when resting rucks are up there.

 

[Sintiger]

Oh and if someone could smack Cody Weightman in the mush that’d be good too

Given his history that would definitely be a free and probably with a 50 metre penalty added as well to put him on the goal line.
It would be interesting to see his percentage of goals from frees. I am sure it is quite high

 

[DavidSSS]

Forward line pressure has also been poor - part structural when resting rucks are up there.

Yeah, forward line pressure seems to have changed since the stand rule, not sure how possible it is any more. Melbourne seemd to be getting the ball back more on the wings last night as opposed to holding it in the forward line, but that is just from watching the game so my impression may not be right.

Given his history that would definitely be a free and probably with a 50 metre penalty added as well to put him on the goal line.
It would be interesting to see his percentage of goals from frees. I am sure it is quite high

They don't seem to release that info any more, would be very interesting.

DS

 

[MD Jazz]

No schache or west is a huge concern for us

Like playing the Cats without Guthrie & Miers

 

[TonyJewell'sPiercing]

Reading earlier posts, St Kevin wrote on Monday that Soldo would be out.
Brilliant call.
Great to see Lambs and Stack return for VFL.
They mentioned Lambs on Seven News.

 

[momentai]

Whoever wrote on here the other day, sorry I forget the name, mentioning Balta as the ruck support, was spot on.
Pleased with the changes.
We need to strengthen defence.
Ross is done.

English is 6cm taller than Nank and Miller and 7-8 taller than Noah, and he can jump.
Cotchin, Edwards and Graham will spend time in the midfield. All are slow compared to their Dog opponents.
Hoping for the best.

 

[momentai]

Good to see back to one ruck. A positive.

Like others thought we already had enough height in defence (with Balta in reserve) to play Mansell over Miller.

Anyway, let's see what we bring.

Still reckon we win this. Big mids are our kryptonite, we just don't have the size to match them i.e. Cripps and Steele.

Dogs are midgets like us in there. Match them there we win (like last year).

Speed is our kryptoniite, when they have speed and are also big… we stick at it for a while but don’t seem to be able to apply any pressure late.

 

[Bullarto Tiger]

While replying to your post, I realised something that I hadn't realised before.

There's a linear series of situations to limit the oppo's ability to score:

A -> B -> C -> D

A is clearance
B is midfield pressure
C is defensive structure
D is marking contest in D50

If you solve A, then you don't need to worry as much about B, C, or D.

In general, I think most clubs tend to gravitate towards solving A first. It feels right.

But what fascinates me is at our dominant best, we've been poor in A but still dominant in B, C, and D.

And the more I think about it...

It's much better to be dominant at B, C, and D instead of A.

If you accept you can't be perfect in all areas, then you have to embrace 1 least desirable strength.

In B, C, and D conditions the opposition's defence is not setup. That means when you succeed at winning back the ball in B, C, and D conditions, you'll be attacking with more space and time, so you'll find it easier to score.

Condition A is the only condition with an opposition defence that's fully setup and mentally switched on. You'll be attacking with less time and space, so you'll find it more difficult to score.

Therefore, condition A is the least desirable strength to invest in... while also being the most common strength that other clubs invest in.

You still invest in all areas, but sacrifices are required because you can't be perfect, so you need to prioritise your imperfections. In this case, I've reasoned a case for clearances being the lowest priority in a chain of situations that lead to an opposition goal, because it's the only condition in which the opposition's defence is ready.

Should more attention go towards addressing conditions B, C, and D?

By extension, are we trying too hard to solve A by taking a calculated risk with Prestia?

Just putting some late night thoughts out there, I hope it makes sense in the morning lol

I enjoyed your late night prognostications, Cups

 

[Sintiger]

I'm not entirely sure of this. Didn't notice it so much last week (might have had my head in my hands!) but we were getting killed in centre clearances in the last quarter against Carlton.

The other aspect would be the quality of the centre clearances, Carlton's were clean and unpressured, are ours also clean and unpressured? Delivery into the forward line suggests they aren't.

I agree around the ground clearances are an issue, we are losing the contested possessions (374 to 403) and we seem completely unable to spread and get clean delivery to the forward line.

The defence has no chance if the ball is coming in quickly and without any pressure.

DS

The centre clearances against the bloos were 12-14 but in the first half they were 10-4. It was the 2-10 in the last half that killed us.
We have actually scored a lot from centre clearances so far this season and that is actually an unsustainable source of scoring.

 

[seven]

Whoever wrote on here the other day, sorry I forget the name, mentioning Balta as the ruck support, was spot on.
Pleased with the changes.
We need to strengthen defence.
Ross is done.

Thank god.
Balata mentioned he was going to leave for more ruck opportunities.