Changes for Qualifying Final

[daniel30]

Another option is would have said no to that if Lynch played and Chol reliable and he looks home at fullback Balta , but with Dave there and Grimes lions big forward is Hippwood and the young ruck who pushes there doesn't scream out dangerous maybe flick the switch if need to or others suggest Broad in took Hippwood to cleaners last time and Balta moved.

I like the move nice and early from Dimma lions guessing our forward line setup we have options.

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[AstuteTiger]

With Prestia and Bolton coming in.

The outs I think will be Ross and one of the 3 smalls (forwards).

Caddy will ride shotgun with Riewoldt as will Chol with Nank.
Dimma came across like Caddy will be playing, he also said, Macca and Pickett "make no mistake those guys will be playing".

The below info are Riloi, Aarts and Castagna’s last 5 games. All 3 have been consistent. I think Rioli and Aarts on par and Castagna just below them.
If we had to solely go by last 5 games id say Castagna to go out just, but as he’s had a lot of finals experience and hasn’t been dropped for like 4 years, I can’t see him being dropped on the eve of the finals.

Rioli has been good last 5 weeks unfairly judged of late. (prior to that I wanted him out)
Big time finals player, I see him also playing.

That leaves the unlucky Aarts.
Has been very good and there will be a hard-luck story and for this week anyway, I think he will go out along with Ross.

Rich V Ess
Rioli 16 disposals, 5 tackles 1 goal, 5 CP, 10 pressure acts, 148 meters gained
Aarts 10 disposals, 2 tackles, 0 goals, 4CP, 21 pressure acts, 76 meters gained
Castagna 12 disposals, 0 tackles, 0 goals, 2 CP, 20 pressure acts, 83 meters gained

Rich V Eagles
Rioli 10 disposals, 5 tackles 1 goal, 2 CP, 19 pressure acts, 190 meters gained
Aarts 16 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 5CP, 13 pressure acts, 183 meters gained
Castagna 16 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 7 CP, 15 pressure acts, 291 meters gained

Rich V Freo
Rioli 13 disposals, 0 tackles 0 goals, 3 CP, 7 pressure acts, 107 meters gained
Aarts 13 disposals, 4 tackles, 1 goal, 7CP, 11 pressure acts, 212 meters gained
Castagna 15 disposals, 2 tackles, 0 goals, 8 CP, 14 pressure acts, 234 meters gained

Rich V Geelong
Rioli 14 disposals, 2 tackles 1 goal, 4 CP, 15 pressure acts, 352 meters gained
Aarts 7 disposals, 3 tackles, 0 goals, 3CP, 10 pressure acts, 126 meters gained
Castagna 11 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 0 CP, 12 pressure acts, 232 meters gained

Rich V Crows
Rioli 14 disposals, 3 tackles 1 goal, 4 CP, 18 pressure acts, 236 meters gained
Aarts 12 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals, 1 CP, 7 pressure acts, 221 meters gained
Castagna 9 disposals, 5 tackles, 1 goal, 3 CP, 12 pressure acts, 166 meters gained

Combined stats for last 5 games RD’s 13-17
Rioli 67 disposals, 15 tackles 4 goals, 18 CP, 69 pressure acts, 1033 meters gained
Aarts 58 disposals, 14 tackles, 4 goals, 20 CP, 62 pressure acts, 829 meters gained
Castagna 63 disposals, 13 tackles, 3 goals, 20 CP, 73 pressure acts, 1006 meters gained

 

[St Kevin]

Lynch not fit to play and we announce it on Monday, why is that?

I reckon it is the mantra that Dimma says every week: we deal with what we can control. Lynch's injury has not recovered in time, we can't control that, no need to avoid announcing this once we know.

Andrews in our out? Beyond our control, worry about the situation when we get to the game. Plan for him playing and for him not playing.

I reckon Prestia must return, Chol has to stay as back up ruck, Bolton must come back.

So, I suspect Ross and Aarts miss out, dreadfully unlucky but they have a future at Richmond and surely are aware of this.

DS

Regarding the first point, you're spot on. Dimma always preaches 'system, system, system'. No player is bigger than the system.

However, there's also a mind game component. It forces the Lions to have a very long think about Andrews. Either he's miraculously recovered, in which case we back our forward line in to deal with him. Or he hasn't recovered and he misses, which is good for us. Or, he hasn't recovered and the play him anyway and we saw how well that worked for GWS and Phil Davis. Long story short, we can't really lose.

 

[MD Jazz]

Couldn't agree more.

If you went back to 20 minute quarters you lose all integrity in the season. Any number of sides may have won or lost games in season under the shorter quarters that would then produce a completely different finals ranking.

Funny. They change the rules mid season and you’re worried about integrity?

Melb teams play one game at home and you think a time change challenges the integrity?

 

[AngryAnt]

Funny. They change the rules mid season and you’re worried about integrity?

Melb teams play one game at home and you think a time change challenges the integrity?

Would be more to do with training regimes and conditioning IMO. If they went to 20 minute quarters now might increase chance of injury.

Don't get me wrong, I hate shorter quarters, but changing it at this time doesn't make sense.

 

[tigermike]

Lynch not fit to play and we announce it on Monday, why is that?

I reckon it is the mantra that Dimma says every week: we deal with what we can control. Lynch's injury has not recovered in time, we can't control that, no need to avoid announcing this once we know.

Andrews in our out? Beyond our control, worry about the situation when we get to the game. Plan for him playing and for him not playing.

I reckon Prestia must return, Chol has to stay as back up ruck, Bolton must come back.

So, I suspect Ross and Aarts miss out, dreadfully unlucky but they have a future at Richmond and surely are aware of this.

DS

Great idea to announce it now. Doubt they are playing mind games 'cause they usually don't, so more likely the testing of his hammy shows it's not quite strong enough yet. I think Dimma said he hasn't done a flat out contest session yet so I'm happy he isn't being pushed to make it. Contrast this with the GF last year when Phil Davis was doing a fitness test on his calf in the middle of the MCG during the warm up! If you're not ready at least 2 days before the game, you're not ready.
In: Prestia, Bolton
Out: Lynch, Ross or Aarts (unlucky, but we bat deep)

 

[UKTiger]

Absolutely

Sorry Chol is not consistent enough. When he is on he is good but too often he is off and we can't risk that in the finals

 

[dmc]

Even with Lynch missing I still think they’ll go with just the one Ruck.

Assuming Caddy is declared fit to okay the.


In: Prestia, Bolton

Out: Chol, Ross

 

[waiting]

With Prestia and Bolton coming in.

The outs I think will be Ross and one of the 3 smalls (forwards).

Caddy will ride shotgun with Riewoldt as will Chol with Nank.
Dimma came across like Caddy will be playing, he also said, Macca and Pickett "make no mistake those guys will be playing".

The below info are Riloi, Aarts and Castagna’s last 5 games. All 3 have been consistent. I think Rioli and Aarts on par and Castagna just below them.
If we had to solely go by last 5 games id say Castagna to go out just, but as he’s had a lot of finals experience and hasn’t been dropped for like 4 years, I can’t see him being dropped on the eve of the finals.

Rioli has been good last 5 weeks unfairly judged of late. (prior to that I wanted him out)
Big time finals player, I see him also playing.

That leaves the unlucky Aarts.
Has been very good and there will be a hard-luck story and for this week anyway, I think he will go out along with Ross.

Rich V Ess
Rioli 16 disposals, 5 tackles 1 goal, 5 CP, 10 pressure acts, 148 meters gained
Aarts 10 disposals, 2 tackles, 0 goals, 4CP, 21 pressure acts, 76 meters gained
Castagna 12 disposals, 0 tackles, 0 goals, 2 CP, 20 pressure acts, 83 meters gained

Rich V Eagles
Rioli 10 disposals, 5 tackles 1 goal, 2 CP, 19 pressure acts, 190 meters gained
Aarts 16 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 5CP, 13 pressure acts, 183 meters gained
Castagna 16 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 7 CP, 15 pressure acts, 291 meters gained

Rich V Freo
Rioli 13 disposals, 0 tackles 0 goals, 3 CP, 7 pressure acts, 107 meters gained
Aarts 13 disposals, 4 tackles, 1 goal, 7CP, 11 pressure acts, 212 meters gained
Castagna 15 disposals, 2 tackles, 0 goals, 8 CP, 14 pressure acts, 234 meters gained

Rich V Geelong
Rioli 14 disposals, 2 tackles 1 goal, 4 CP, 15 pressure acts, 352 meters gained
Aarts 7 disposals, 3 tackles, 0 goals, 3CP, 10 pressure acts, 126 meters gained
Castagna 11 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 0 CP, 12 pressure acts, 232 meters gained

Rich V Crows
Rioli 14 disposals, 3 tackles 1 goal, 4 CP, 18 pressure acts, 236 meters gained
Aarts 12 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals, 1 CP, 7 pressure acts, 221 meters gained
Castagna 9 disposals, 5 tackles, 1 goal, 3 CP, 12 pressure acts, 166 meters gained

Combined stats for last 5 games RD’s 13-17
Rioli 67 disposals, 15 tackles 4 goals, 18 CP, 69 pressure acts, 1033 meters gained
Aarts 58 disposals, 14 tackles, 4 goals, 20 CP, 62 pressure acts, 829 meters gained
Castagna 63 disposals, 13 tackles, 3 goals, 20 CP, 73 pressure acts, 1006 meters gained

Thanks for taking the time to post the above.

Aarts May be the unlucky one...

 

[22nd Man]

With Prestia and Bolton coming in.

The outs I think will be Ross and one of the 3 smalls (forwards).

Caddy will ride shotgun with Riewoldt as will Chol with Nank.
Dimma came across like Caddy will be playing, he also said, Macca and Pickett "make no mistake those guys will be playing".

The below info are Riloi, Aarts and Castagna’s last 5 games. All 3 have been consistent. I think Rioli and Aarts on par and Castagna just below them.
If we had to solely go by last 5 games id say Castagna to go out just, but as he’s had a lot of finals experience and hasn’t been dropped for like 4 years, I can’t see him being dropped on the eve of the finals.

Rioli has been good last 5 weeks unfairly judged of late. (prior to that I wanted him out)
Big time finals player, I see him also playing.

That leaves the unlucky Aarts.
Has been very good and there will be a hard-luck story and for this week anyway, I think he will go out along with Ross.

Rich V Ess
Rioli 16 disposals, 5 tackles 1 goal, 5 CP, 10 pressure acts, 148 meters gained
Aarts 10 disposals, 2 tackles, 0 goals, 4CP, 21 pressure acts, 76 meters gained
Castagna 12 disposals, 0 tackles, 0 goals, 2 CP, 20 pressure acts, 83 meters gained

Rich V Eagles
Rioli 10 disposals, 5 tackles 1 goal, 2 CP, 19 pressure acts, 190 meters gained
Aarts 16 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 5CP, 13 pressure acts, 183 meters gained
Castagna 16 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 7 CP, 15 pressure acts, 291 meters gained

Rich V Freo
Rioli 13 disposals, 0 tackles 0 goals, 3 CP, 7 pressure acts, 107 meters gained
Aarts 13 disposals, 4 tackles, 1 goal, 7CP, 11 pressure acts, 212 meters gained
Castagna 15 disposals, 2 tackles, 0 goals, 8 CP, 14 pressure acts, 234 meters gained

Rich V Geelong
Rioli 14 disposals, 2 tackles 1 goal, 4 CP, 15 pressure acts, 352 meters gained
Aarts 7 disposals, 3 tackles, 0 goals, 3CP, 10 pressure acts, 126 meters gained
Castagna 11 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 0 CP, 12 pressure acts, 232 meters gained

Rich V Crows
Rioli 14 disposals, 3 tackles 1 goal, 4 CP, 18 pressure acts, 236 meters gained
Aarts 12 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals, 1 CP, 7 pressure acts, 221 meters gained
Castagna 9 disposals, 5 tackles, 1 goal, 3 CP, 12 pressure acts, 166 meters gained

Combined stats for last 5 games RD’s 13-17
Rioli 67 disposals, 15 tackles 4 goals, 18 CP, 69 pressure acts, 1033 meters gained
Aarts 58 disposals, 14 tackles, 4 goals, 20 CP, 62 pressure acts, 829 meters gained
Castagna 63 disposals, 13 tackles, 3 goals, 20 CP, 73 pressure acts, 1006 meters gained

AT good data...do you have a stats package you can copy from or are you just a very fast typist?

 

[tigermike]

Sorry Chol is not consistent enough. When he is on he is good but too often he is off and we can't risk that in the finals

We can't risk not having a ruckman either if Nank is injured mid-game. Who else is there apart from Miller who they won't use unless absolutely necessary. So lucky to get through 2017 just with Nank, can't take that risk again.

 

[Birdman19]

I don't think we have a choice but to play Chol and have a contingency if Nank gets injured. That being said, I would possibly play Chol on Andrews and let Cholly run him up and down the ground to test his hammy.

 

[Coburgtiger]

I was deadset against Chol being selected as a back up ruckman.

But as a tall forward, he has value. He will stay in mainly as a forward, play 8 minutes in the ruck, get dominated for 8 minutes in the ruck, and hopefully kick a couple of nice goals.

So if Lynch stays out, Chol stays in.

Out: Castagna, Lambert
In: Bolton, Prestia

Heresy, I know, but it's upgrades everywhere.

 

[seven]

Imagine if Nank went down

 

[Coburgtiger]

Imagine if Nank went down

No

 

[fastin bulbous]

After much thought the only thing I know for sure is I don’t want chol anywhere near a final. Not enough intensity last week to deserve a spot in the team and I think that’s important. So pinch hit balta in the ruck. We have enough tall defenders to cover him. Play caddy in the forward 50 as a marking forward. He is great in this role. Back to the piñata days

out chol and some really unlucky bloke or castagna

in Prestia, Bolton

pressure pressure pressure and pop the ego bubble of the lions in the first quarter

 

[spook]

Dimma all but said Chol will play.

 

[Ridley]

Dimma all but said Chol will play.

He did. Reckon Mabs is just about the luckiest player on an AFL list right at this very moment.

 

[fastin bulbous]

Dang dimma

 

[jb03]

I was deadset against Chol being selected as a back up ruckman.

But as a tall forward, he has value. He will stay in mainly as a forward, play 8 minutes in the ruck, get dominated for 8 minutes in the ruck, and hopefully kick a couple of nice goals.

So if Lynch stays out, Chol stays in.

Out: Castagna, Lambert
In: Bolton, Prestia

Heresy, I know, but it's upgrades everywhere.

There is zero chance of those changes occurring.