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Callum Coleman-Judas - extricate yourself to Nth Ballarat, you git

Tony Braxton-Hicks said:
On loyalty, he's been left to rot in the reserves when another club may have shown faith and given him a shot ahead of the loper. No guarantees he gets played next year either. Another club may be showing more enthusiasm and he's considering it.
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Nonsense. If it wasn’t for his bad decision last year he may have played in a premiership.
 
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MalenyTiger said:
I don't buy the lacked opportunity argument. Why did Chol get the green light ahead of him this year? Many would argue (and obviously the selectors agreed) that Chol showed better form at VFL level. I reckon there's a spot for him at the Tigers but he needs to grab his opportunity when it arrives. Sure, gold coast may play him more often in the short term next year but will that be a better outcome success-wise? I doubt it. He needs to consider his long term future ATM not just next season.
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I think Chol got the jump cause CCJ was suspended for the first couple of months.

Lets wait and see what happens - I still am hopeful he will sign with the tigers.

Don‘t know where this rumour has come from.
 
Aegean Tiger said:
Always have been dubious about the benefits of a ruck/forward or forward/ruck position in AFL football. IMO the very best talls have clearly defined identities on the field. They are either very good rucks, KPF or KPD. So what is the true essence of CCJ....? Is he a KPD...certainly not! A KPF....don't think so. Too slow and cumbersome to be elite in that position. So then a ruck....possibly.....but we already have Nank, Soldo and young Ryan as a developing type.

Very good currency at the moment......and we need an A grade clearance machine in the guts to complement our mids!
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Theoretically the ruck/forward is one of the most important position on the ground.
Teams cannot carry two legitimate rucks so the hybrid becomes invaluable
 
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leon said:
Think so? Already very close, especially if you factor in CCJ has had ~6% more ToG. As summative evaluations, both AFL Fantasy and SC rate Chol higher. You can really only compare this season for a comparable run and number of games.

Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol AFL Stats Comparison

Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol AFL Stats Comparison.
www.footywire.com
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Yep CCJ is already a better player, more consistent despite being 2.5 years younger and this year essentially being his first and 3 years less on our list. Will only continue to improve as he gets more exposure at senior level. Perplexed people still make excuses for Chol, in my opinion he's not AFL standard as he doesn't compete consistently and goes missing for too long too often. List clogger, will be 25 and his seventh year come round 1 next year.
 
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toothless said:
Yep CCJ is already a better player, more consistent despite being 2.5 years younger and this year essentially being his first and 3 years less on our list. Amazed people still make excuses for Chol, in my opinion he's not AFL standard as he doesn't compete consistently and goes missing for too long too often. List clogger, will be 25 round 1 next year.
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Might present a more detailed response another time. But you may be right. OTOH, I reckon CCJ is definitely more the future ruck/forward, whilst Chol is potentially more a forward/relief ruck only.
And Jack is nearly at the end IMO. Possibly just one injury away. Chol can still improve further, in endurance and competitiveness. He is 10kg too light for a serious ruck; even compared to CCJ let alone a hardened contender. But great athleticism.

Do we want him playing against us hereafter, like for the Bummers? Review his Dreamtime game before you write him off forever.
 
Crucial signing , Nank needs help and Lynch needs help , just about to progress to a very good player imho
 
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Dont Argue said:
Theoretically the ruck/forward is one of the most important position on the ground.
Teams cannot carry two legitimate rucks so the hybrid becomes invaluable
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Perhaps DA. But theory sometimes bears no resemblance to reality. When is the last time one of these hybrids made an AA team?
Reckon we can and should carry both Eeeevan and Nank in the team. Failing that, my preference would be to play a Follower/Grigg type although perhaps taller and stronger.

Right now CCJ has currency and I would seriously consider a trade for the right player/pick!
 
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Aegean Tiger said:
Perhaps DA. But theory sometimes bears no resemblance to reality. When is the last time one of these hybrids made an AA team?
Reckon we can and should carry both Eeeevan and Nank in the team. Failing that, my preference would be to play a Follower/Grigg type although perhaps taller and stronger.

Right now CCJ has currency and I would seriously consider a trade for the right player/pick!
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We've put 4 years of development into CCJ, why offload him now when he's just starting to show what he can do. Remember that big guys normally take longer to "come on" than smaller ones & we really need someone else in the forward line for when Jack retires.

IMO it would be negligent for us to just let him go.
 
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TT33 said:
We've put 4 years of development into CCJ, why offload him now when he's just starting to show what he can do. Remember that big guys normally take longer to "come on" than smaller ones & we really need someone else in the forward line for when Jack retires.

IMO it would be negligent for us to just let him go.
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Of course we should not just let him go TT33, we should demand significant compensation in return!
 
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Aegean Tiger said:
Perhaps DA. But theory sometimes bears no resemblance to reality. When is the last time one of these hybrids made an AA team?
Reckon we can and should carry both Eeeevan and Nank in the team. Failing that, my preference would be to play a Follower/Grigg type although perhaps taller and stronger.

Right now CCJ has currency and I would seriously consider a trade for the right player/pick!
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If you play both our pure ruckmen, you probably have to rest one on the bench.
Play CJ and you have the ability to select an extra midfielder because he is a genuine forward marking option who gives Nanks a chop out.
Look how they used Hawkins last night. Damaging as a forward and damaging as a ruck option. That’s the advantage they have now with their recruitment of Cameron. Lynch and CJ could be the same combination.
BTW I’m a huge wrap for Ivan.
 
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Would anyone entertain pick 7 + CCJ to the suns for pick 3 ? Just putting out there as gold coast have reportedly put pick 3 on the table.
 
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