Callum Coleman-Judas - extricate yourself to Nth Ballarat, you git

[momentai]

The position with our rucks is going to get interesting.

Cameron-Jones, Chol, Colina, Nankervis, Ryan and Soldo.

We also have Astbury, Balta, Lynch and now Pickett, who have done well in support.

The first 6 are all relatively young with futures in front. At least 3 Nank, Soldo and CJ have now shown enough to attract interest from outside.

The point is that while we are over stocked to billy-0, several clubs are short of rucks and a couple are even more desperate than that.
The bulldogs and GWS are two such clubs and any dealing for Bontinpelli or Green is likely to involve one of our rucks?

 

[Tigers of Old]

I'd say yes. The game has changed/ Lock it in the forward line doesn't work as well as it did. The pressure work has been pushed to the wings and midfield. Ergo more space for the big men and also more important that marks are taken rather than the ball being run out. CCJ in makes both Jack and Lynchy more dangerous. Pity Marlion makes CCJ redundant as a ruckman

Maybe. I'd like to see it in action.
CJ has been exposed at the top level for one game. There's a bit of a honeymoon period here.
Not saying he won't be a good AFL player but until we've seen the evidence, it's all just speculation based on potential (geez I hate that word) at this point.

 

[year of the tiger]

I think last year has meant players like CCJ and RCD get another year on what would be usual given their lack of VFL form and it being much harder than normal breaking into a Premiership team.

I suspect they will get opportunities at some point in 2021 - agree CCJ could come this week given Melb are a tall team and we tend to like to throw our young players into big games.

 

[tigerman]

I'd say yes. The game has changed/ Lock it in the forward line doesn't work as well as it did. The pressure work has been pushed to the wings and midfield. Ergo more space for the big men and also more important that marks are taken rather than the ball being run out. CCJ in makes both Jack and Lynchy more dangerous. Pity Marlion makes CCJ redundant as a ruckman

Agree with most of that, except the "Marlion makes CCJ redundant as a ruckman".

Marlion did a great job against the Saints who were undermanned in the ruck department, and he definitely gives us the option of giving Nank a chop out, but I'm not sure we can get away with it against sides who have two genuine ruckman, such as the Dogs and the Dees.
I don't think Marlion would go up against Gawn too often, but Luke Jackson is an emerging talent and will be too good for Marlion on Saturday night.
I don't know who goes out, but I'd like to see CCJ come in against the Dees.

 

[Harry]

I would play him for 2 reasons. We need to blood a replacement key forward and we have to relieve Nank in the ruck. But it does make us slower and takes away from our swarming game. Tough choice

 

[St Kevin]

I would play him for 2 reasons. We need to blood a replacement key forward and we have to relieve Nank in the ruck. But it does make us slower and takes away from our swarming game. Tough choice

I know we are very reluctant to tinker with our system, but there is merit to playing him this week, particularly if May plays.

If May goes to Lynch, and Tomlinson goes to Riewoldt, we could use an aerial threat to keep Lever accountable.

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

He could also tie up Gawn when he drops back.

 

[Tenacious]

I know we are very reluctant to tinker with our system, but there is merit to playing him this week, particularly if May plays.

If May goes to Lynch, and Tomlinson goes to Riewoldt, we could use an aerial threat to keep Lever accountable.

I know we are very reluctant to tinker with our system, but there is merit to playing him this week, particularly if May plays.

If May goes to Lynch, and Tomlinson goes to Riewoldt, we could use an aerial threat to keep Lever accountable.

Agree with you both
But for me it’s the opportunity to take some the workload off Nank that’s the main reason
Dunno what Nanks game minutes played have been - but letting CCJ have a crack is better than Dave, Balta and Marlion
And if CCJ really does show something in the ruck then it means Nank could have a week off down the track if required
Meanwhile having CCJ take a grab or two up forward would be a real bonus

 

[Tigerhealer]

I'd say yes. The game has changed/ Lock it in the forward line doesn't work as well as it did. The pressure work has been pushed to the wings and midfield. Ergo more space for the big men and also more important that marks are taken rather than the ball being run out. CCJ in makes both Jack and Lynchy more dangerous. Pity Marlion makes CCJ redundant as a ruckman

i like Malion closer to goal, CCJ time is now

 

[tha8ball]

I know we are very reluctant to tinker with our system, but there is merit to playing him this week, particularly if May plays.

If May goes to Lynch, and Tomlinson goes to Riewoldt, we could use an aerial threat to keep Lever accountable.

Surely May isn’t playing. He cops one knock and he will be done.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Surely May isn’t playing. He cops one knock and he will be done.

It was forecast May would miss a month. This is only the second week.

 

[St Kevin]

Surely May isn’t playing. He cops one knock and he will be done.

Simon Badloss sounded optimistic, but one week for a fractured eye socket would be impressive. He’d need some Dunstall-esque head gear.

 

[Dont Argue]

If CCJ can’t get a game this week, then it would appear he’s only a break glass in case of an emergency player for us.
It’s now or maybe never considering Melbourne’s tall brigade

 

[Mr T.]

He's a big lug like Lynch. Can we play both?

We can play both, as long as they can hold bloody marks... that's what annoys me, key forwards or talls who hold key link up positions not holding the damn ball.

 

[lamb22]

Maybe. I'd like to see it in action.
CJ has been exposed at the top level for one game. There's a bit of a honeymoon period here.
Not saying he won't be a good AFL player but until we've seen the evidence, it's all just speculation based on potential (geez I hate that word) at this point.

It is speculation but he is a real ridgy didge player. Born ruckman who accumulates possession, stands with strength and purpose under the high ball, clunks his marks, uses well within his limitations. In his one game 2 years ago he still collects 13 possessions and 5 tackles in 63% game time. He is better and stronger now!

 

[Tigers of Old]

It is speculation but he is a real ridgy didge player. Born ruckman who accumulates possession, stands with strength and purpose under the high ball, clunks his marks, uses well within his limitations. In his one game 2 years ago he still collects 13 possessions and 5 tackles in 63% game time. He is better and stronger now!

Haha you get bonus points for the use of 'ridgy didge' lamby. Haven't heard that used in decades!
On that basis I'm on the CJ train.

 

[lamb22]

Haha you get bonus points for the use of 'ridgy didge' lamby. Haven't heard that used in decades!
On that basis I'm on the CJ train.

Showing your age Oldie!

 

[lamb22]

Agree with most of that, except the "Marlion makes CCJ redundant as a ruckman".

Marlion did a great job against the Saints who were undermanned in the ruck department, and he definitely gives us the option of giving Nank a chop out, but I'm not sure we can get away with it against sides who have two genuine ruckman, such as the Dogs and the Dees.
I don't think Marlion would go up against Gawn too often, but Luke Jackson is an emerging talent and will be too good for Marlion on Saturday night.
I don't know who goes out, but I'd like to see CCJ come in against the Dees.

I am sure I put a smiley face after the Marlion reference but apparently not Who know, maybe he has!

 

[lamb22]

I am sure I put a smiley face after the Marlion reference but apparently not Who know, maybe he has!

It happened again. Why are my emojis disappearing. What am I doing wrong?



Well they worked that time!

Please disregard my ramblings!!!

 

[123cups]

I'd say yes. The game has changed/ Lock it in the forward line doesn't work as well as it did. The pressure work has been pushed to the wings and midfield. Ergo more space for the big men and also more important that marks are taken rather than the ball being run out. CCJ in makes both Jack and Lynchy more dangerous. Pity Marlion makes CCJ redundant as a ruckman

In theory, wouldn’t it be the opposite?

There’s more space, so more marks on the lead, and less contested marks attempted in packs? And marks on the lead are won with smarts and/or pace?

So, wouldn’t a slower 195cm+ player struggle to capitalise on that space as well as a 175-185cm forward?

Almost all of the great forwards in AFL history weren’t that tall, and the most successful team of the modern era built their game on the smallest forward line in the comp, so why should we play 3 tall forwards? (The best one is a flanker ). I know defenders are getting taller, but that extra 10cm in height is useless if they’re 10cm too slow to react on the lead. Apologies for the rant, I’ve been entrenched in this view since 2017 lol, to the extent that I was even against picking up Lynch, so I might be on the extreme end!