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Bachar Houli - بشار حولي,
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But half the posters on here will have no evidence to back up their arguments!
They’d better go to Specsavers
200th game this week!
Congrats Bash. Well done.
Technically only his 174th (as first 26 games don't count!)
Thanks EssenDoom.
Sort of forget he was ever there..... makes you wonder what a fella like Bachar would have done if he'd been at that club when they were on the gear..... got out before the rot (JH) set in.
On the verge of his 200th game, here's a rare early pic of Bachar without his beard as a Tiger..
He's still playing great footy too. So glad he appears to have gotten over those calf injuries.
He's still playing great footy too. So glad he appears to have gotten over those calf injuries.
Pretty much how I see it. Club focuses on the positives not the negatives. We won a flag because of that change.
The club went from darkside to brightside.
They come for the insightful critiques. Where else could they find the fountain of knowledge?
Where does it say that the club doesn't read them?
All Prestia said was that stats weren't discussed with the players.
The Day 1's knew he was good. Love everything Bash has done for the club on and off the ground. True Tiger. I associate Holui & Grigg with the start of the turnaround. Always will.
if there was a medal for quoting ones own quotes, Scoop you’d be a gold medallist
if there was a medal for quoting ones own quotes, Scoop you’d be a gold medallist
I'm tempted to do this all the time but am trying to stay classy these days
Next you'll be telling us you're tempted to refer to yourself in the third person...I'm tempted to do this all the time but am trying to stay classy these days
ok maybe the club reads them. maybe Dimma reports them to the chief and Peggy every monday morning. maybe.
But if you want to see change on the field, you talk to the players.
And Dion has stated that it doesnt happen. No discussion of individual stats.
There is no "Bach you need more bounces, i dont care if you have only ran 2m"
There is obviously a lot of feedback and mentoring after each match. And we generally play the same role, with Houli kicking short to the pocket and then lomg down the line.
Houli plays to instructions, just that their Dimmas instructions and not from PRE
Self promotion is key. Every wrong one is bought up by other clowns I need to counter balanceif there was a medal for quoting ones own quotes, Scoop you’d be a gold medallist
I think you have missed the nuance of the argument.
Of course coaches will not talk individual disposal numbers with players, it goes against the idea of being selfless.
The team first ethos is constantly being promoted by coaches and leaders because there is a somewhat natural tendency for players to chase statistics. Young players and fringe players are particularly vulnerable to chasing stats. IMO Prestia was talking to the players as well as fans when he says we don't need plays to get 30 disposals or kick lots of goals.
The reason it is such a challenge for coaches is that the media and fan perception does matter. The players know it and the coaches know it. So, whilst the club will promote a team first ethos, I would argue coaches are not immune to being influenced by the media who have built an industry around disposals and fantasy points.
This is a secondary point that I don't want to overplay, but Hardwick is on record this season as saying 'I am an accountant by trade and the first thing I want to do after a game is look at the stats'.
Touching on a different topic that you raised - unnecessary bounces:
The point about unnecessary bounces is that it is bad habit and it is easily fixed. I know the coaches don't count bounces - but are they telling them not to do it? Both Short and Houli understand that the media (including the club website last week) often equate bounces to run and carry.
I was once coached in a rep side training session by Tom Hafey - his focus in the training drills was to explode out of the context and run your full measure before you dispose of the ball (no bouncing). I copped a blast, which hurt me at the time, and it has never left me. Bouncing takes your eyes off the field, slows your pace and kicking the ball will move the ball more quickly if there are better options. Dusty and Cotch are both great examples of what do - explode, look for an option, look for again for an option then bounce because they have to.
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