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Atheism
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evo said:
I have obviously heard of this riddle but have never heard a definitive answer. My (partially-serious) take would be that just because previous 'observed' falling trees have made a noise how do we know that unobserved falling trees make a noise? Maybe they make that noise for our benefit? Maybe not every falling tree makes a noise, just the ones that have been observed thus far?
Anyway there is no way to prove whether it does make a noise or not, because no-one was there to hear that particular tree.
Heres what the original atheist Buddha had to say on God........
Who is it that shapes our lives?
Is it Isvara, a personal creator?
If Isvara be the maker,
all living things should have to submit to their maker's power.
They would be like vessels formed by the potter's hand;
and if this were so, how would it be possible to practise virtue?
If the world had been made by Isvara
there should be no such thing as sorrow, or calamity, or evil;
for both pure and impure deeds must come from him.
If not, there would be another cause beside him,
and he would not be self-existent.
Thus, you see, the thought of Isvara is overthrown.
Again, it is said that the Absolute has created us.
But that which is absolute cannot be a cause.
All things around us come from a cause
as the plant comes from the seed;
but how can the Absolute be the cause of all things alike?
If it pervades them, then, certainly, it does not make them.
Who is it that shapes our lives?
Is it Isvara, a personal creator?
If Isvara be the maker,
all living things should have to submit to their maker's power.
They would be like vessels formed by the potter's hand;
and if this were so, how would it be possible to practise virtue?
If the world had been made by Isvara
there should be no such thing as sorrow, or calamity, or evil;
for both pure and impure deeds must come from him.
If not, there would be another cause beside him,
and he would not be self-existent.
Thus, you see, the thought of Isvara is overthrown.
Again, it is said that the Absolute has created us.
But that which is absolute cannot be a cause.
All things around us come from a cause
as the plant comes from the seed;
but how can the Absolute be the cause of all things alike?
If it pervades them, then, certainly, it does not make them.
