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America, will they ever learn? (Gun Control Debate)
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Re: America, will they ever learn?
So this makes it OK to shoot unarmed men or men who are incapacitated by the cops? As I said prosecute each case on its merits, the fact that this hasn't happened is a large part of the reason why there is the current unrest.
Baloo said:
So this makes it OK to shoot unarmed men or men who are incapacitated by the cops? As I said prosecute each case on its merits, the fact that this hasn't happened is a large part of the reason why there is the current unrest.
Re: America, will they ever learn?
I believe a spokesman said one police officer is killed in the line of duty every 61 hours (124) Over a third (42) involving firearms
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/research-bulletins/
Last year there were 102 unarmed black people shot by police officers.
http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/
It seems like there are some big problems allround
Baloo said:
I believe a spokesman said one police officer is killed in the line of duty every 61 hours (124) Over a third (42) involving firearms
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/research-bulletins/
Last year there were 102 unarmed black people shot by police officers.
http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/
It seems like there are some big problems allround
Re: America, will they ever learn?
Video is quite clear. He was on his back when shot (and apparently reaching for the gun he had in his front right pocket).
IanG said:
Video is quite clear. He was on his back when shot (and apparently reaching for the gun he had in his front right pocket).
Re: America, will they ever learn?
This gives you a good idea of how *smile* up things are in the States!
World: Dallas shooting: Police chief David Brown becomes the face of tragedy http://abc.net.au/news/7586162
This gives you a good idea of how *smile* up things are in the States!
World: Dallas shooting: Police chief David Brown becomes the face of tragedy http://abc.net.au/news/7586162
Re: America, will they ever learn?
Theres training issues for the Police too though. Apparently he had told the officer he was carrying. Personally in that situation, I would think the most appropriate thing to do is ask the driver / passenger to remove themselves from the car with arms in the air, hands then on either the bonnet or the roof and then remove said weapon. Then carry on with your job as to why you had pulled the car over. I don't understand why they don't do this as a matter of course. Seems like a much more sensible action. If you want the man to show you licences etc, then remove weapons first and then allow them to go digging for wallets / licences.
Big Country said:
Theres training issues for the Police too though. Apparently he had told the officer he was carrying. Personally in that situation, I would think the most appropriate thing to do is ask the driver / passenger to remove themselves from the car with arms in the air, hands then on either the bonnet or the roof and then remove said weapon. Then carry on with your job as to why you had pulled the car over. I don't understand why they don't do this as a matter of course. Seems like a much more sensible action. If you want the man to show you licences etc, then remove weapons first and then allow them to go digging for wallets / licences.
Re: America, will they ever learn?
Is it more social engineering that not once has the term "racist" been used to describe Dallas shooter Micah Johnson? The guy who wanted to kill white people, especially white cops, and would only talk to a black police officer during the stand off.
Is it more social engineering that not once has the term "racist" been used to describe Dallas shooter Micah Johnson? The guy who wanted to kill white people, especially white cops, and would only talk to a black police officer during the stand off.
Re: America, will they ever learn?
probably worried he would be shot by a white officer.
tigertim said:
probably worried he would be shot by a white officer.
Re: America, will they ever learn?
The US is very very different than Australia. I have driven in 30 States and was pulled up by a police officer in Montana. Jumped out of the car like we do here and he pulled his gun on me. Was very lucky not to be shot. You put your hands on the wheel and do not move until asked to by the officer. Every one knows this over there except us Aussies.
The US is very very different than Australia. I have driven in 30 States and was pulled up by a police officer in Montana. Jumped out of the car like we do here and he pulled his gun on me. Was very lucky not to be shot. You put your hands on the wheel and do not move until asked to by the officer. Every one knows this over there except us Aussies.
Re: America, will they ever learn?
NO. 14th School shooting in 2018 - that's one every 4 days. Condolences, sadness and empathy for the impacted. Their gun laws will NEVER change.
NO. 14th School shooting in 2018 - that's one every 4 days. Condolences, sadness and empathy for the impacted. Their gun laws will NEVER change.
Re: America, will they ever learn?
It's alright, all the high up players who can make a big change will send thoughts and prayers.
Historically, thoughts and prayers have a 100% strike rate in making gun debates die down until the next shooting.
Thank god for thoughts and prayers. God bless America.
It's alright, all the high up players who can make a big change will send thoughts and prayers.
Historically, thoughts and prayers have a 100% strike rate in making gun debates die down until the next shooting.
Thank god for thoughts and prayers. God bless America.
