Agree. I saw it on Kano's video yesterday, in Banks' speech the other day and in Ooze's speech to the players. They now know the oldies are fading out and with the draftees coming in, they become the next seniors to lead.
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There is no way that the 'new' RFC would have "wins" as a high KPI in 2025.....
...... and supporters expecting (or demanding) this are flawed in their logic (was this polite enough?)
The 'new' RFC is a truly professional, integrated and forward looking organisation (thanks Benny!) that will have a strategic plan both off and on the field....
Whether we have 2, 4 or 6 wins in 2025 is (mostly) irrelevant. Every win will be a bonus - BUT - most importantly the RFC will be building toward player development, team structure, team selection (future drafts, salary cap space, delistings) and future Premiership success.
There is no way that Yze will be sacked (or judged) in 2025 based on a win/loss ratio!
Perhaps he will outside 'the four walls' - BUT - inside they will be judging the incremental steps he takes toward building another Premiership team and Culture.
2025 is the year it starts................
We will need to be patient.
...... and supporters expecting (or demanding) this are flawed in their logic (was this polite enough?)
The 'new' RFC is a truly professional, integrated and forward looking organisation (thanks Benny!) that will have a strategic plan both off and on the field....
Whether we have 2, 4 or 6 wins in 2025 is (mostly) irrelevant. Every win will be a bonus - BUT - most importantly the RFC will be building toward player development, team structure, team selection (future drafts, salary cap space, delistings) and future Premiership success.
There is no way that Yze will be sacked (or judged) in 2025 based on a win/loss ratio!
Perhaps he will outside 'the four walls' - BUT - inside they will be judging the incremental steps he takes toward building another Premiership team and Culture.
2025 is the year it starts................
We will need to be patient.
I don't like to put numbers on it but to me if we ended up with 5 wins, a percentage of 75% and 3-4 rising star nominations that would be a pretty decent season from where we are at now.
I also want to see a few of our early 20s players take a significant step in their career.
Im not fussed about wins but really want to see sustained periods of competitiveness in games. Obviously we will get blown out quite a bit at times but you want to see some hanging in there too.
Also really hoping our 2,3,4th year players taking decent steps.
With a rebuilding list and losing 3 of your best players in Bolton, Rioli and Baker bit of a reality check.
Fair point - but gee you'd have to have a pretty pessimistic outlook to believe (suggest?) that Yze has a "going through the motions" ideology.
He is an elite athlete (and Coach) selected on his merits with a hunger for success....
2024 dished him up an untenable situation with injuries (and player movements mostly beyond his control).............. so he prioritised accordingly..........
Now he gets to look forward and build accordingly.
I guess that the term 'elite' might be open to interpretation. Are you an elite Coach if you are the head Coach of an underperforming club (think Weagles, Freo, GCS)? Are you an 'elite' Coach as an assistant that went on to improve and indeed challenge for Finals:
“In January 2012, Yze joined Hawthorn as a part-time assistant coach. On 14 November 2014, Yze replaced Luke Beveridge as Hawthorn's backline coach under senior coach Alastair Clarkson, after previously working with the Hawks as a specialist goal-kicking and development coach for the past three seasons. Yze was credited for playing a key role in harnessing the Hawthorn players' elite kicking skills as they developed into the AFL's deadliest team in front of goal over the past two seasons, with the team's accuracy increasing from 48 per cent to 57.1 per cent during his tenure as goalkicking coach".
"After six seasons as a Hawthorn assistant coach, Yze was appointed assistant coach at Melbourne for the 2021 season. The Demons would have an outstanding 2021 season in which they finished on top of the ladder and were a dominant team throughout the regular season and the finals series which was capped off with a commanding victory over the Western Bulldogs to win the 2021 premiership. Yze was a key architect in creating their league best defence that was a key factor in their historic premiership win. In the 2022 season Melbourne would continue their dominant ways extending the winning streak to 17 games, until the second half of the year in which momentum was halted and they struggled with consistency. Yze continued his role as midfield coach overseeing arguably the best midfield in the competition while their team defence still remained elite and one of the top in the competition’”
I'm reasonably confident that the term 'elite' Coach is applicable,
Of course - I also firmly believe in the adage "you can't soar like an Eagle when you're flying with Turkeys"
As an elite coach he has not established that. Coaches that fall into that category are those that deliver premierships.Anything less falls below elite IMO.I guess that the term 'elite' might be open to interpretation. Are you an elite Coach if you are the head Coach of an underperforming club (think Weagles, Freo, GCS)? Are you an 'elite' Coach as an assistant that went on to improve and indeed challenge for Finals:
“In January 2012, Yze joined Hawthorn as a part-time assistant coach. On 14 November 2014, Yze replaced Luke Beveridge as Hawthorn's backline coach under senior coach Alastair Clarkson, after previously working with the Hawks as a specialist goal-kicking and development coach for the past three seasons. Yze was credited for playing a key role in harnessing the Hawthorn players' elite kicking skills as they developed into the AFL's deadliest team in front of goal over the past two seasons, with the team's accuracy increasing from 48 per cent to 57.1 per cent during his tenure as goalkicking coach".
"After six seasons as a Hawthorn assistant coach, Yze was appointed assistant coach at Melbourne for the 2021 season. The Demons would have an outstanding 2021 season in which they finished on top of the ladder and were a dominant team throughout the regular season and the finals series which was capped off with a commanding victory over the Western Bulldogs to win the 2021 premiership. Yze was a key architect in creating their league best defence that was a key factor in their historic premiership win. In the 2022 season Melbourne would continue their dominant ways extending the winning streak to 17 games, until the second half of the year in which momentum was halted and they struggled with consistency. Yze continued his role as midfield coach overseeing arguably the best midfield in the competition while their team defence still remained elite and one of the top in the competition’”
I'm reasonably confident that the term 'elite' Coach is applicable,
Of course - I also firmly believe in the adage "you can't soar like an Eagle when you're flying with Turkeys"
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