911 Truth Movement

[Baloo]

Of course not because you have no way of knowing it's "most people". Various opinion polls have acceptance of the OR (al Qaeda solely responsible) below 50%. Worldwide hundreds of millions of people believe the US government was complicit to some degree.

I can accept that you and some others find that belief irrational and ridiculous but thats says more about you and your inability to accept anything other than your own beliefs.

Really ? You believe most people believe the US government were complicit in 911? Had prior knowledge and made moves to ensure its success ?

Hundreds of millions of people believe that ? Man, I'm putting you back into the crackpot basket.

Edit: actually, when I think of 911 troof as a religion, it starts to be more understandable. Much like the belief that there is a god, there is a belief that the is a conspiracy. The extremes believe in ID and Holograms respectively, then there are those that believe without really thinking about it in detail, believe just because they like to think its true. Then in between we have those prepared to debate the existence of their beliefs.

 

[Disco08]

What's 15% of the world's population?



Gotta go to work so I'll get to the rest later.

 

[Baloo]

What's 15% of the world's population?



Gotta go to work so I'll get to the rest later.

Man, I didn't realise the billions in China, India and Africa voted.

 

[Willo]

Man, I didn't realise the billions in China, India and Africa voted.

:hihi
They must have had a proxy do it for them

 

[AngryAnt]

Rubbish. I've never asserted any of those things for a reason. You've just got the sh!ts because you can't rationally attack my beliefs.

Your beliefs are your own, it's when you assert them as facts I bother to critique them.

 

[tigertim]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/5851435/Apollo-11-hoax-one-in-four-people-do-not-believe-in-moon-landing.html

Of course 25% believe the moon landing was faked too.......

http://www.inquisitr.com/171741/77-percent-of-americans-believe-in-angels-polling/

Not to forget the 77% who believe in angels. I like that one.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,60353,00.html

8% thought Elvis was still alive (and 11% weren't sure!)

And pick your number of billions who believe "the man in the sky" routine (thank you Mr Gervais!)

 

[Harry]

To believe the US Government and its agencies knew the details of the pending attacks and acted in a manner to allow them to happen is just plain and simple irrational thinking.

lol

 

[Harry]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/5851435/Apollo-11-hoax-one-in-four-people-do-not-believe-in-moon-landing.html

Of course 25% believe the moon landing was faked too.......

http://www.inquisitr.com/171741/77-percent-of-americans-believe-in-angels-polling/

Not to forget the 77% who believe in angels. I like that one.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,60353,00.html

8% thought Elvis was still alive (and 11% weren't sure!)

And pick your number of billions who believe "the man in the sky" routine (thank you Mr Gervais!)

what are the stats on JFK?

 

[tigertim]

http://www.wnd.com/2003/11/21798/

Interestingly, as in 911, the longer time goes on the more people believe in the conspiracy. I assume its because people forget the facts and logistics over time and the myths take a life of their own and get bigger and bigger.

 

[Harry]

what are your thoughts?

 

[tigertim]

what are your thoughts?

I'm sure it comes as no surprise t o you Harry that I believe the OR on that one too. ;D

 

[Disco08]

Your beliefs are your own, it's when you assert them as facts I bother to critique them.

Rubbish. You're all over the Larry thing and I've said very clearly that it's pure conjecture more than once.

Man, I didn't realise the billions in China, India and Africa voted.

You didn't realise it was possible to do opinion polls there?

 

[AngryAnt]

Rubbish. You're all over the Larry thing and I've said very clearly that it's pure conjecture more than once.

Twice in two posts you've "rubbish". I'm obviously hitting a nerve here :hihi

 

[Disco08]

Nah mate. That's just the nicest way of saying you're absolutely 100% wrong.

 

[Disco08]

Edit: actually, when I think of 911 troof as a religion, it starts to be more understandable. Much like the belief that there is a god, there is a belief that the is a conspiracy. The extremes believe in ID and Holograms respectively, then there are those that believe without really thinking about it in detail, believe just because they like to think its true. Then in between we have those prepared to debate the existence of their beliefs.

Yep probably all true. The thing you have to get your head around is that there are plenty of intelligent people (many with expertise in areas relevant to 9/11) who don't accept the absolute truth as spelled out by the fraudulent 9/11 commission.

 

[Disco08]

In November 2007 Scripps Howard surveyed 811 Americans about their beliefs in several conspiracy theories and asked this question[17]

How about that some people in the federal government had specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, but chose to ignore those warnings. Is this very likely, somewhat likely or unlikely?

32% "Very Likely"
30% "Somewhat Likely"
30% "Unlikely"
8% "Don't Know/Other"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories#United_States

 

[Baloo]

I've accepted that ages ago.

 

[Disco08]

But any that believe it's possible that members of the US government are complicit are being both ridiculous and irrational?

 

[Soda]

Rubbish. You're all over the Larry thing and I've said very clearly that it's pure conjecture more than once.

And this is what I don't understand. I think to most reasonable, objective people the insurance fraud aspect is just too far-fetched.

1. He was the under-bidder on the property - would not have know he had secured the property until mid 2011 I think. The original highest bidder is a publicly listed company, i doubt they could be easily influenced to be in on the scam. I doubt Larry and tghe board could have concocted this and not a word has come out about it.
2. He didn't take possesion until 8 weeks before the attack - how could he have setup the 3 perfect "demolitions" in this time?
3. He must have known the exact date of the attacks - otherwise how could he plan his days? No one has indicated the exact date was "known". Surely he was not relying on info that attacks were "imminent"?
4. No one who was in on the scam (I imagine it must have involved at least a dozen people?) has ever come forward. If you argue they are all dead why would there be no questions on these deaths from the families etc? maybe they were all homeless?

These are the obvious questions, i'm sure there are more that make the insurance fraud angle a real longshot.

Do you agree it is a pretty far-fetched scenario?

 

[Baloo]

But any that believe it's possible that members of the US government are complicit are being both ridiculous and irrational?

To the point ofknowing specificsandeven altering lawsand regulations toensureits success, yes, definitely ridiculousand irrational.

Being intelligent doesn't preclude anyone from being irrational and ridiculous.