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Do you think the US government should hold an independent investigation into the events surrounding


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*smile*, what's that noise outside?

If I'm not back guys, they've got me.
 
Disco08 said:
My support is for the victims calling for a new inquiry.
You've been using the families or families and friends of the 3000 victims line up until now. If you're changing your tune now that's great.

Do you think everyone who doesn't accept the OR is a crackpot?
Did I ever say that ?
 
Baloo said:
You've been using the families or families and friends of the 3000 victims line up until now. If you're changing your tune now that's great.
Did I ever say that ?

Did I say you did? It was a question not a statement. Would you mind answering it?

You've misunderstood me if you think I've been trying to speak on behalf of anyone.

tigertim said:
What's crack pot about making suggestions that the demolition team was murdered as part of the cover up?

Nothing.........nothing at all. Totally legitimate proposal.

If this annoys you so much just give it a miss.

The obvious distinction you missed here is that I didn't suggest that at all. I suggested it was a remote possibility as a response to the assertion that controlled demolition was totally impossible.
 
Disco08 said:
Did I say you did? It was a question not a statement. Would you mind answering it?

You've misunderstood me if you think I've been trying to speak on behalf of anyone.

If this annoys you so much just give it a miss.

The obvious distinction you missed here is that I didn't suggest that at all. I suggested it was a remote possibility as a response to the assertion that controlled demolition was totally impossible.
Ok, you didn't suggest it you suggested it was a remote possibility. ::)

Sort of like someone who suggested the towers collapsed due to a team of beavers digging it up from underground.
 
Fair enough.

tigertim said:
Ok, you didn't suggest it you suggested it was a remote possibility. ::)

Sort of like someone who suggested the towers collapsed due to a team of beavers digging it up from underground.

Not the rolly eye guy. New lows Tim.
 
Disco08 said:
Did I say you did? It was a question not a statement. Would you mind answering it?
I don't know all the people that a calling for an enquiry so it would be hard for me to make a generalisation like that without knowing the facts. I'd be jumping to conclusions. But if forced to give an answer, I would hazard a guess and assume not all of them are crackpots.

You've misunderstood me if you think I've been trying to speak on behalf of anyone.

Oh, I must have misunderstood you then. Carry on.

Disco08 said:
3000 people died. For a start their friends and families deserve a proper inquiry into how their government failed to notice the flood of specific warnings given to them from other countries. They haven't ever been given that and that's wrong.

Disco08 said:
Until they're fully explained there'll always be conjecture and that's completely unfair on the victim's families.

Disco08 said:
The victim's families deserve much better than that.

Disco08 said:
Finally one of the main reasons to reinvestigate is you give the families of the victims what they deserved - an honest effort to find out how and why these events happened.

Disco08 said:
Mostly though I would like the see a proper re-investigation for the sake of the families effected by these events.

Disco08 said:
It should be fully examined if only to bring closure for the families that lost their loved ones.
 
How is saying they deserve better than the 9/11 commission speaking on their behalf? I honesly don't understand why you think this makes me dishonest or morally bankrupt.
 
Disco08 said:
How is saying they deserve better than the 9/11 commission speaking on their behalf? I honesly don't understand why you think this makes me dishonest or morally bankrupt.

You have no idea what most of the 3000 victims families want. Using them to give your views weight is dishonest and morally bankrupt. The one family I know (shame it isn't two then I could say "many") are sick to death of the conspiracy crackpots and just want to be left alone without being reminded of what happened over and over again.

Defend your position without using what's right for the families of the victims.
 
No. That's what I believe. No person deserves treatment as poor as that given to the victims of 9/11 by their government.
 
Disco08 said:
How is saying they deserve better than the 9/11 commission speaking on their behalf? I honesly don't understand why you think this makes me dishonest or morally bankrupt.

Come on, you're saying 'they deserve...', you are speaking on behalf of them, them being the victims families.

100 pages :help :-\ :-X :-[ :p :police: :blah

One thing I can tell you, I can't speak for the families, but when I was in NY one thing cam through loud and clear, New Yorkers, and Americans in general are over 9/11. Completely.
 
Disco08 said:
No. That's what I believe. No person deserves treatment as poor as that given to the victims of 9/11 by their government.

You believe the victims families and friends should be forced to go through inquiry whether they like it or not ? Maker them relive it all again, dig up the old wounds and have to deal with crackpots and holograms again ?

That's where we're different, I don't believe they should be forced through another inquiry.
 
Some want it, some don't. You can make the same argument either way.

tigersnake said:
Come on, you're saying 'they deserve...', you are speaking on behalf of them, them being the victims families.

If I was speaking on their behalf I'd be saying they want a proper inquiry.
 
Thats a head scratcher. I reckon you're trying to wangle your way out of it. Which has been your modus operandi throughout. You get pinned down on something, then change your tune and go on a tangent, ask an odd question, its disconcerting, which it the intention I guess
 
What's a head scratcher?

I'm not trying to wrangle my way out of anything. I'll stand by anything I've sad here.

I also think it's pissweak of you to say that's how I roll. I answer every question anyone asks me here honestly. Just because you don't like my answers or what I have to say don't invent *smile* that's simply not true.
 
A multitude of specific warnings that al Qaeda terrorists were inside the US and that they were planning on flying hijacked planes into buildings such as the Pentagon and WTC. All completely ignored by the US administration.

Actions taken by the US administration to actually make it easer for such an attack to succeed.

Reactions on 9/11 which were completely anomalous that helped allow the attacks to succeed.

The complete and utter removal, suppression and destruction of vast sources of evidence.

The complete abandonment of standard procedure.

The resistance to investigate the murder of 3000 people.

The rigging of the inquiry that occurred due to immense public pressure.

The failure of the US administration to cooperate with the inquiry.

The absolute inadequacy of the OR.

The historical precedent for US administrations to contemplate faked attacks on its own citizens.

The historical precedent for the US to manipulate/create events as a platform for war.

The historical precedent for the US to use preemptive conflicts.

The documented objective of the Bush regime to gain military control of Iraq.


The documented massive gains to powerful individuals when the US is at war.

The documented anomalous trading on AA and UAL prior to 9/11.


None of this is proof of anything. But it is certainly demonstrated motive and evidence towards conspiracy that demands proper investiation.

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