911 Truth Movement

[Azza]

Finally got tp watch it. Interesting vid. Looks like the origin of a lot of the stuff floating around the web, and is much better explained. No real conspiracy claims, just serious queries about the evidence and conclusions provided in the official report. Pretty compelling stuff.

I didn't watch a lot of the end bit on the psychology of people who can't accept that the official version may be not be completely real. But a good point was made about owing it to the victims to address some of the report inconsistencies.

 

[Disco08]

This is going to hurt some cognitive dissonance glands.

This video has 3 points which all seem totally unbelievabe but are compelling nonetheless.

1) NBC's evening news showed dramatically altered footage of the second crash.

2) When Fox's archived footage is rewound the plane isn't where it should be.

3) A big ball seems to hit tower 2 in NBC's archived live footage.

[youtube=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbY0Oa-6v8[/youtube]

Honestly, this is enough to test anyone's objectivity. Maybe faked video but that seems unlikely if it was the live broadcast. Also strange that the static live footage has normal looking colours and definition whereas most of the other footage is totally different.

 

[glantone]

Well, all I can say if you see this guy with 3 cups and a little bean on a busy London street inviting passing tourists to spot the ball for a 5’ver just keep on walking.

I haven’t followed this thread very diligently so forgive my ignorance but what’s the point of dropping/firing/sling shoting a massive ball into the tower when we’re swimming in lunatics who would gladly pilot 300,000 kilos of airborne metal into it?

 

[tigertim]

And Richard to his credit goes on to say he was wrong..... :rofl

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzQn8H9CbYE

 

[Baloo]

Well, all I can say if you see this guy with 3 cups and a little bean on a busy London street inviting passing tourists to spot the ball for a 5’ver just keep on walking.

I haven’t followed this thread very diligently so forgive my ignorance but what’s the point of dropping/firing/sling shoting a massive ball into the tower when we’re swimming in lunatics who would gladly pilot 300,000 kilos of airborne metal into it?

15 mins of fame.

 

[evo]

And Richard to his credit goes on to say he was wrong..... :rofl

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzQn8H9CbYE

LOL @ Richard mocking up his mothers basement to make himself look a serious news investigator. I couldn't stop laughing.



I kept thinking of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxhs-O_9BLc

 

[Disco08]

The basement setup is legendary. :hihi

 

[tigertim]

LOL @ Richard mocking up his mothers basement to make himself look a serious news investigator. I couldn't stop laughing.



I kept thinking of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxhs-O_9BLc

I was thinking more Wayne's World actually.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdz3rHmQbsw

 

[Tigers of Old]

And Richard to his credit goes on to say he was wrong..... :rofl

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzQn8H9CbYE

At least he admitted he was wrong but it but is pretty funny.

 

[evo]

I was thinking more Wayne's World actually.

haha. great call.

Excellent.

 

[tigertim]

Not impressed?

In that half hour I only saw several AIA members state their opinion that they didn't believe the towers would collapse as they did. And they're entitled to that opinion. Obviously there just as many (or more?) other experts who say it is possible.

 

[Azza]

In that half hour I only saw several AIA members state their opinion that they didn't believe the towers would collapse as they did. And they're entitled to that opinion. Obviously there just as many (or more?) other experts who say it is possible.

You probably need to watch the first hour to get a better idea. The last 20 mins or so can be skipped.

 

[bullus_hit]

The big question for me is the fact that 2 planes completely demolished 3 towers, how so? The fate of building 7 has not been adequately explained and it beggars belief to suggest a spot fire on a couple of floors can cause a building to freefall in a similar manner to a controlled demolition. Unless someone can come up with a logical explanation then an independant investigation is definitely in order.

 

[Tigers of Old]

3) A big ball seems to hit tower 2 in NBC's archived live footage.

[youtube=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbY0Oa-6v8[/youtube]

Mysterious ball object..doubles as a UFO coverup. :hihi

 

[Disco08]

Yeah. :hihi

Wayne's World is spot on too. :hihi

The thought process is good though. The only real evidence we have is the TV footage. Why not examine it as closely as possible? Effecticely what he's done (if indeed his analysis can be used to prove the object that hit WTC2 is UAL175) is disprove all the "no plane" theories presented in the "September Clues" production he mentions. Quite ironic but definitely a step in the right direction.

The other interesting thing to come from it is how much more willing some people are to discuss something easily debunked than they are something more challenging to their beliefs.

In that half hour I only saw several AIA members state their opinion that they didn't believe the towers would collapse as they did. And they're entitled to that opinion. Obviously there just as many (or more?) other experts who say it is possible.

If this is true you'd have no trouble pointing me towards a few similarly credentialled experts supporting the OR. Can you?

 

[tigertim]

Yeah. :hihi

Wayne's World is spot on too. :hihi

The thought process is good though. The only real evidence we have is the TV footage. Why not examine it as closely as possible? Effecticely what he's done (if indeed his analysis can be used to prove the object that hit WTC2 is UAL175) is disprove all the "no plane" theories presented in the "September Clues" production he mentions. Quite ironic but definitely a step in the right direction.

The other interesting thing to come from it is how much more willing some people are to discuss something easily debunked than they are something more challenging to their beliefs.

If this is true you'd have no trouble pointing me towards a few similarly credentialled experts supporting the OR. Can you?

So now I'm being castigated for debunking your myths? Fine. Time to move on ....again.

 

[Disco08]

Castigated? That's the way you see it?

 

[Harry]

The big question for me is the fact that 2 planes completely demolished 3 towers, how so? The fate of building 7 has not been adequately explained and it beggars belief to suggest a spot fire on a couple of floors can cause a building to freefall in a similar manner to a controlled demolition. Unless someone can come up with a logical explanation then an independant investigation is definitely in order.

NIST believe a combination of fires and structure damage lead to the symmetrical free fall collapse (closer buildings that were torn apart still stood). AE911 believe this is impossible. NIST and popular mechanics believe this is very possible. you decide.

 

[Baloo]

The big question for me is the fact that 2 planes completely demolished 3 towers, how so? The fate of building 7 has not been adequately explained and it beggars belief to suggest a spot fire on a couple of floors can cause a building to freefall in a similar manner to a controlled demolition. Unless someone can come up with a logical explanation then an independant investigation is definitely in order.

Agree completely. A spot fire could never have taken down WTC7.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

The big question for me is the fact that 2 planes completely demolished 3 towers, how so? The fate of building 7 has not been adequately explained and it beggars belief to suggest a spot fire on a couple of floors can cause a building to freefall in a similar manner to a controlled demolition. Unless someone can come up with a logical explanation then an independant investigation is definitely in order.

You might have to read back few pages. There was much more damage to WTC 7 than first thought. Nothing strange.