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2Day FM Phone Hoax

Baloo said:
We had to change our home number once, to stop abusive anonymous calls, but that's not what these DJs did.
Agreed, no link between this and stalking creeps.
 
Elmer said:
Clearly struck a cord with you Rosy but fact remains pranks like this happen all the time.

Yes it did. I am not amused by those who impose themselves on others to get a laugh at their expense. Happening all the time doesn't mean it should accepted or condoned. Others might think it's nothing but I can empathise, through personal experience, with those who feel humiliated, threatened, freaked out or upset by someone else's uninvited and unsolicited contact. Fact also remains that plenty of pranks go awry resulting in suffering and even death. If you pull the prank you might have to deal with the consequences on your conscience. If there's nothing wrong with this it would be reasonable to assume they might try a similar thing again. I bet they don't.

Elmer said:
Kate Middleton sick with baby is number one news in UK and big globally, it was always going to attract this sort of unwanted attention.

What on earth do you base that claim "always" claim on? What's the precedence for a royal family member being sick with their baby experiencing this kind of prank? If 2Day FM didn't do it how do you know that sort of unwanted attention would still have occurred?

Elmer said:
The Sun in the UK is classless but also the No 1 selling paper/rag; happy for them to be classed lowlife;

That's funny Elmer. I'll remember you've given your blessing if I feel the need to post about the UK Sun. I happen to think the radio station and djs were classless in this instance too though. Without the benefit of the above clarification I took your protest on board and moved the discussion to another thread. It's a very low act no matter what the Lowlife of the Week thread heading says. Maybe the title of the thread could be changed to Instigators of Low Acts but people would still judge participation based on their own criteria.
 
1. I find it hard to believe that the royals don't have their own direct phone line into the hospital.

2. Why would anyone think that The Queen and Prince Charles need to ring the hospital to get information on Kate when they can just get it from the horses mouth so to speak, ie; their own flesh and blood, Prince William.

3. There is no way this would be the first time pranksters have called the hospital pretending to be the royal family wanting to get information.

4. If a radio or television show is conducting a prank, wouldn't they have to tell the person/people after it's happened that they have been the subject of a prank.
 
Elmer said:
Agreed, no link between this and stalking creeps.

No link with stalking I agree but there is a link with people contacting a number to make anonymous, unsolicited phone calls. Some might think it's funny and acceptable but that's usually not the victim though.
 
Tommo37 said:
4. If a radio or television show is conducting a prank, wouldn't they have to tell the person/people after it's happened that they have been the subject of a prank.

That's what I'm interested to know. I imagine there will be a detailed investigation into this incident. My understanding is it's not legal to record and use phone conversations without notifying, and/ or having permission from, the person involved.

Even after the nurse took her life and the program was pulled the station was still playing the conversation on their website. You'd think they'd have legal advice about doing that so maybe my understanding is wrong.
 
rosy23 said:
What on earth do you base that claim "always" claim on? What's the precedence for a royal family member being sick with their baby experiencing this kind of prank? If 2Day FM didn't do it how do you know that sort of unwanted attention would still have occurred?

That's funny Elmer. I'll remember you've given your blessing if I feel the need to post about the UK Sun. I happen to think the radio station and djs were classless in this instance too though. Without the benefit of the above clarification I took your protest on board and moved the discussion to another thread. It's a very low act no matter what the Lowlife of the Week thread heading says. Maybe the title of the thread could be changed to Instigators of Low Acts but people would still judge participation based on their own criteria.
The always claim is based on a being a massive 'Royal' news story, fairly transparent I would have thought.

I wasn't saying you need my blessing but good on you for taking that OTT personal leap. I was merely saying that no-one would say The Sun isn't lowlife.

Perhaps you can take a step back and take the topic as a discussion point you started/posted rather than personal digs.
 
Baloo said:
We had to change our home number once, to stop abusive anonymous calls, but that's not what these DJs did.

Who knows...maybe the nurse might have been blamed for lack of protocol and was then warned to be sacked or maybe she's a bit sensitive and felt ashamed if errors are made (I read she was meticulous with her work). Depends on how she took it.

We often hear some Gen Ys suiciding themselves from bullying. Why? Who knows on how the person feels.
 
Elmer said:
The always claim is based on a being a massive 'Royal' news story, fairly transparent I would have thought.

There is no evidence at all that the situation was "always going to attract this sort of unwanted attention". Unwanted attention no doubt but prank phone calls of this kind? No evidence to support that at all.

Elmer said:
I wasn't saying you need my blessing but good on you for taking that OTT personal leap. I was merely saying that no-one would say The Sun isn't lowlife.

Yep and you prefaced that by saying they were classless. I judge 2Day FM's actions as classless too. Blessing or not you were saying one belonged on the lowlife thread and one didn't. Seeing it was my post being protested about I was happy to split it. Would probably have left it if another poster had chosen to post it on this thread though. I think it was an extremely low act but accept we all have our own standards and criteria on how we judge these things.
 
TigerForce said:
Who knows on how the person feels.

:clapping Fact is we can't know what crosses others have to bear or the negative affect our actions could potentially have on them.

I reckon it's a safe bet, even though plenty seem to condone such behaviour, that the parties involved won't ever repeat this kind of stunt again. Could be a lesson learned the hard way that, even though it might be water off a duck's back to some, not everyone is programmed to cope with being harassed, humiliated, ridiculed or publicly embarrassed. Very, very sad situation.
 
rosy23 said:
:clapping Fact is we can't know what crosses others have to bear or the negative affect our actions could potentially have on them.

I reckon it's a safe bet, even though plenty seem to condone such behaviour, that the parties involved won't ever repeat this kind of stunt again. Could be a lesson learned the hard way that, even though it might be water off a duck's back to some, not everyone is programmed to cope with being harassed, humiliated, ridiculed or publicly embarrassed. Very, very sad situation.

I doubt it won't be done again Rosy. It's the way of life with some of these moron FM stations. It's the way to gain fame nowadays. Same as the 'speed kills' promos that do stuff all to convince the younger generation not to speed and/or hoon. Just keeps happening.
 
Baloo said:
Don't disagree, but if you ban them then the candid camera shows need to be banned too.

After this tragedy they should be:

[youtube=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhr_MYO_rE[/youtube]
 
rosy23 said:
There is no evidence at all that the situation was "always going to attract this sort of unwanted attention". Unwanted attention no doubt but prank phone calls of this kind? No evidence to support that at all.

Yep and you prefaced that by saying they were classless. I judge 2Day FM's actions as classless too. Blessing or not you were saying one belonged on the lowlife thread and one didn't. Seeing it was my post being protested about I was happy to split it. Would probably have left it if another poster had chosen to post it on this thread though. I think it was an extremely low act but accept we all have our own standards and criteria on how we judge these things.
The evidence is it happened. In my 10 years living in the UK there are/were numerous 'gotcha' moments every year that happen to the Royals in one form or another. If you want physical evidence then surf the net.

Your post wasn't protested, I voiced an opinion that I disagreed as did others. It was there for discussion no? However obviously an emotive topic as you ended up paying the man rather than the ball/topic.
 
Chiang Mai Tiger said:
After this tragedy they should be:

[youtube=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhr_MYO_rE[/youtube]

*smile*, is that for real ?
 
Even if it's not I think that is the problem with this stuff, you just never can predict how people are going to react to it.
To get noticed, the boundaries are forever being stretched.
 
Elmer said:
Your post wasn't protested, I voiced an opinion that I disagreed as did others. It was there for discussion no? However obviously an emotive topic as you ended up paying the man rather than the ball/topic.

You expressed your opinion that this incident was nowhere near lowlife territory so I took that on board and split the thread, explaining I thought it was a low act so it was semantics to me.

You responded that The Sun are classless and you’re happy for them to be classified as lowlifes, even though you didn’t feel the same about the radio station and djs involved in this particular incident.

When I described that as giving your blessing you accused me of an OTT personal leap. I could have substituted gave it your approval or some other similar words ..yet again semantics to me.

You said this situation was always going to attract this kind of attention. I did a search as you suggested and didn't see any results for woman in risk of losing baby targeted in a prank hospital call.

You had a crack at me for saying “protest” in regard to my post and indicated instead that it was a "voiced an opinion of disagreement". More semantics.

Even though I’ve discussed my feelings on this in considerable detail you chose to single out one sentence with the word blessing and tell me perhaps I can take a step back and take the topic as a discussion point I started/posted rather than personal digs.

How you can accuse me of “playing the man” is beyond me but very interesting just the same. It shows how sensitive some can be to what others do and say, thus supporting my opinion about those in question harassing others to get a cheap laugh.

If I’d chosen a couple of words differently, or you interpreted them differently, you probably wouldn’t have taken my comments so personally.

If the 2Day FM didn’t pull that prank this awful situation wouldn't be an issue. Very unfortunate that they did.
 
rosy23 said:
If the 2Day FM didn’t pull that prank this awful situation wouldn't be an issue. Very unfortunate that they did.

Unfortunately ultimately suicide by a person is the responsibiity only of that person, regardless of what precedes.