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2024 Draft Thread

We don’t want second rounders next year. A weak draft. Hopefully bummers come for our pick 11 to use before a Kako bid. 2 x future firsts or 1 and their first 2 picks this year. They’ll have enough picks left to match on Kako.

High number of academy picks next year - reportedly.

Our strategy to get first round picks this year was to amass multiple 3rd and 4th round picks

Next year the AFL is reducing the number of picks that will have a value attached. So only 54 next year, down from 73. Basically the first three rounds.

Our past strategy can be modified for 2025 by amassing second round picks. Given the higher number of academy selections we can trade these for first round picks
 
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I’d like to get a futures pick that could be top 5 in 2025 then judging the later picks with a view to sliding 1 or 2 spots for seconds. Think we need 1 extra 2025 first round picks before sliding.

I didn't say we didn't but there will be offers where we could easily gain 2-3 extra 2nds next year just by sliding our picks backwards. For me there are plenty of players in that 35-50 range that are draftable, and a lot of the speedier players seem to be in that range.

I'd happily take 6 firsts this year, then a slide back to the 35-50 range and then take Pick 1 in the rookie draft.

If we play that well and get the right offers, we could have an extra 1st, plus 2-3 extra 2nds putting us in a very solid position again, with maybe 5-6 picks in the 1st 2 rounds again.

Its the smart play IMO.
 

Geelong eyes move for South Australian ruck prospect Alex Dodson at national draft​

Four years after trading up to draft best-and-fairest winner Max Holmes, Geelong is eyeing another big move with its eye on one of the most highly-rated athletes in the current draft pool.
Matt Turner and Dan Batten
Herald Sun
November 16, 2024

Geelong could try to move up the order to land the draft’s best ruck prospect, South Australian Alex Dodson.
The Cats are understood to be keen on the Sturt big man but their first pick is not until No. 45, well after he is expected to be chosen.
So Geelong, which holds all its 2025 selections, may attempt to package a future call to land the under-18 All-Australian next week.

Richmond has been widely tipped to swoop on Dodson as a potential ruck successor to Toby Nankervis.
The Tigers have a swag of picks (18, 20, 23, 24) at the end of the first and start of the second round where they may pounce, if they take them into the draft.
Indications suggest the Cats are also in the frame to add a ruckman given Rhys Stanley turns 34 next month, Toby Conway is promising but has battled foot stress fractures the past two seasons and Mitch Edwards is a project player set to enter his second campaign.
Geelong is believed to have looked closely at Dodson, 204cm GWS academy prospect Logan Smith and 199cm West Australian Kayle Gerreyn.

The Cats are interested in SA ruck prospect Alex Dodson.


The Cats are interested in SA ruck prospect Alex Dodson.

Emerging big man Toby Conway has had injury issues.
Dodson, who stands 203cm, has been compared to two-time All-Australian Brodie Grundy because of his mobility and competitiveness.

Recruiters think the youngster has huge potential after sitting out from football last season to focus on basketball.
This year, he played hoops for Australia at under-18 level, only to turn down division one college scholarship offers and a development spot with Adelaide 36ers to pursue footy.

Dodson averaged 20.8 disposals, 24.9 hit-outs and 4.6 clearances from nine under-18 games for the Double Blues, as well as 17.3 disposals and 19.7 hit-outs for SA.

Dodson reaches highest to win a hitout during the Under-18 National Championships.

Dodson reaches highest to win a hitout during the Under-18 National Championships.

AFL talent ambassador Kevin Sheehan told this masthead it was difficult to know how early top ruckmen would be taken in drafts, but he felt Dodson was a first-round choice.

“Given basketball occupied him a fair bit, he’s got so much development still in him, yet he was still fantastic this year,” Sheehan said.
“He’s competitive, mobile, a great size and can win the ball.
“He just needs time to develop physically to compete against the bigger bodies.”

ALEX DODSON'S DRAFT DOSSIER PROFILE​

A mobile big man with “sky high” potential, Dodson looks set to be the first ruckman picked in this year’s draft. A dual-sport athlete, he did not play football as a 17-year-old, instead focusing on his other sporting love of basketball. He won a gold medal playing basketball for Australia at the Albert Schweitzer Tournament in Germany earlier this year and missed South Australia’s first match of the AFL under-18 national championships to attend a national under-19 basketball program at the AIS in Canberra.

However, Dodson’s performances for his state in the last three games of the championships proved he is a player with a bright future ahead in the AFL. Likened to Western Bulldogs ruckman Tim English, Dodson is a good tap ruckman who then gets himself involved in the game post-hitout.

He is a nice mark overhead, has clean hands, is handy below his knees for a big man and can go forward and kick a goal. In one game for Sturt’s under-18s in late July, Dodson racked up 32 disposals (20 contested) along with 34 hitouts and 10 clearances. He has rejected multiple offers to play college basketball in the United States in favour of pursuing a football career.

SANFL U18s 125 ranking points, 20.8 disposals, 4 marks, 24.9 hitouts (7.4 to advantage), 4.6 clearances, 3 score involvements, 2.1 tackles, 0.1 goals (9 games)

2024 National Champs 114 ranking points, 17.3 disposals, 3 marks, 19.7 hitouts (6.7 to advantage), 3.7 clearances, 3 score involvements, 1.7 tackles, 0.3 goals (3 games)

If Geelong chose a ruckman next week, it would make it three in four national drafts.
The Cats selected Conway at pick 24 in 2021 and Edwards at No. 32 last November.

Geelong has taken a conservative approach with Conway, 21, because of his injury issues, which have restricted him to 23 games in all competitions in three seasons, including six at the top level.
He played five AFL matches this year.
Stanley featured in 14 games in 2024, including both of Geelong’s finals.
The Cats delisted category B rookie and ruckman Joe Furphy last month.
Geez he looks a lot like Adam Pattison. Hopefully a bit better ruck prospect
 
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High number of academy picks next year - reportedly.

Our strategy to get first round picks this year was to amass multiple 3rd and 4th round picks

Next year the AFL is reducing the number of picks that will have a value attached. So only 54 next year, down from 73. Basically the first three rounds.

Our past strategy can be modified for 2025 by amassing second round picks. Given the higher number of academy selections we can trade these for first round picks

At present other clubs are in a much better position than RFC to deal in 2025 as for Gold Coast basing on this years finishing position and trading their 2025 hand looks lihe this already:

Gold Coast6, 10, 16, 24, 42, 605,539

Richmond1, 19, 554,155
West Coast3, 13, 21, 31, 39, 495,663


Our best way to trade into future 1st round picks is to trade out picks this year but they also happen to be round 1 picks :unsure:


 
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I think there should be some rules, just for decorum.
Can we do a practice run? Maybe we all get a numbered ticket and have to wait in line for a melt. How many melts for picks can you have at once?
As a boutique board dedicated to just one club does PRE have enough regular posters for a full scale Chernobyl level meltdown/Big Footyesque server crashing free for all?
 
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Geez he looks a lot like Adam Pattison. Hopefully a bit better ruck prospect
Way better than Pattison who was a centre half forward as a junior, way better than CCJ who didn't really have an effective contested game. Dodson has some really interesting traits, 4 clearances a game is elite for a ruckman, most of his touches are contested and he is approaching Grundy levels for overall production. I think he has big upside, he's skinny now but he won't be in 4 years time, he'll probably hit 205cm or more once he's full grown. Nothing wrong with picking ruckmen in the 20-30 range if they're good enough, I think it's easy to write them off but the reality is we haven't seen too many emerge at junior level over the past 10 years. Times are a changin' though, last year saw a few good prospects and this year I'd put Dodson in the high end category. Barnett was the best ruck a couple of years ago but Dodson is a much better prospect in my opinion.
 
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I would be very happy just to take our picks #1 , #6 , #10 , #11 and even sliding a few spots with the last 2 picks if it gains picks in the 20's finishing the draft with 5-6 selections

Trading #20 , #23 , #24 into good F1's should be the intention so we could also have 4 picks inside 20 next year
 
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Bidding on Ashcroft have another benefit

NorF look like they currently dont have a deal in place and will need time on draft night to extract what they can in the limited 5 minute time frame.

There is a very high chance they will bid on Ashcroft to get an extra 5 minutes to structure the deal if there is a last minute bid
By bidding on Ashcroft we take that extra time ability off their hands and they will need to make the decision quickly.


But we wont bid
I'm sure North have done their due diligence and have multiple plans in place to attempt to get what they want depending on how the night unfolds.
 
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I didn't say we didn't but there will be offers where we could easily gain 2-3 extra 2nds next year just by sliding our picks backwards. For me there are plenty of players in that 35-50 range that are draftable, and a lot of the speedier players seem to be in that range.

I'd happily take 6 firsts this year, then a slide back to the 35-50 range and then take Pick 1 in the rookie draft.

If we play that well and get the right offers, we could have an extra 1st, plus 2-3 extra 2nds putting us in a very solid position again, with maybe 5-6 picks in the 1st 2 rounds again.

Its the smart play IMO.
I agreed.
 
At present other clubs are in a much better position than RFC to deal in 2025 as for Gold Coast basing on this years finishing position and trading their 2025 hand looks lihe this already:

Gold Coast6, 10, 16, 24, 42, 605,539

Richmond1, 19, 554,155
West Coast3, 13, 21, 31, 39, 495,663


Our best way to trade into future 1st round picks is to trade out picks this year but they also happen to be round 1 picks :unsure:


We might be able to swap with west coast or freo if they want someone
 
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