2023 Draft Thread.

[DuD_Delist]

. Stockpiled 9 picks so far I believe.

Not a bad hall to complement No.1 pick Harley.

Harley might be the target.
Reid>>>Richmond
9 picks>>>West Coast.

 

[TigerForce]

Looks like we lost the draft…https://apple.news/AY-b_96KFR66BHc9iMvavKQ

They worked it out!! Article result: D-

 

[spook]

Every report has Chedda Edwards as 'big-bodied'. No, dummies. He's tall. And skinny.

 

[Tigers of Old]

The AFL (Fox Footy) has got to fix the draft format. It is currently WOEFUL!
I far preferred the heady days where it was a quickfire afternoon in the PRE chatroom than this overinflated pile of crapola.

 

[Brodders17]

You're half right. This year will forever be looked back upon as the year the stars aligned for the Suns, they milked a flawed loophole-ridden system to get 4 gun players for free. A bit like North and the 10 year rule.

The system will still have the same method and intent, it just won't be the total free ride it is at the moment. For example whats her name AFL deputy has already flagged a change will be a club must use a pick in the same round as where the bid comes. So rather than trading pick 4 for 28, 35, 40, 42 or whatever, it will be 4 for 17, and some junk picks. This will mean junk picks will still have value, maybe not as much, and would also mean this years fiasco would never be repeated. They either just wouldn't be able to get the picks to get more than 2, or if they did would have to pay-up big time.

The same round idea is flawed- the opening round this year went to 29 picks. the next rd 14 picks, and the next 8.

 

[DuD_Delist]

The trading of picks into next year is not something many here considered. It's such a complicated business now the draft.
I have no idea whether that was the right play or not but it does highlight there's a fair bit more strategy to it than just picking the players you like.
Not to mention the countless interview conducted with each of these potential draftees & the data bases they have access to that track players from years out with an eye on future drafts.
Here's hoping our FT professionals get it right after having all the information at hand.
Time will tell..

Knowing how Blair operates.
We already have the player.

 

[tigersnake]

The same round idea is flawed- the opening round this year went to 29 picks. the next rd 14 picks, and the next 8.

Bloody oath its flawed. But at least its something. If it was in this year it would have made it hard for the Suns to get more than 2. They would have had to have had to have traded to get 3 first round picks, albiet late first round, but still, its no small ask. Currently is just 'yeah just give us whatever change you have in your pocket'.

 

[Brodders17]

Bloody oath its flawed. But at least its something. If it was in this year it would have made it hard for the Suns to get more than 2. They would have had to have had to have traded to get 3 first round picks, albiet late first round, but still, its no small ask.

The AFL would have just given North a few more to trade to them.

 

[Tig3]

The same round idea is flawed- the opening round this year went to 29 picks. the next rd 14 picks, and the next 8.

True but it would’ve made it almost impossible for the suns to stockpile 4 first round picks as clubs wouldn’t be helpful to them in that situation you wouldn’t think. I think a limit on the amount of academy players you can match bids for might work. Maybe limit it at 2, then the suns would have had to decide who they wanted most out of those 4 kids

 

[spook]

I think a limit on the amount of academy players you can match bids for might work. Maybe limit it at 2, then the suns would have had to decide who they wanted most out of those 4 kids

They'll never do that. They want all their northern academy kids playing for those clubs, which is understandable.

Of course, what they should do is make the academies AFL-generic and available to everyone but they'll share a line with a povvo in the top deck of the Ponsford before they do that. And I can see the lure of being a kid from Palm Beach knowing that if you put the work in you can stay on the Goldie.

 

[mrposhman]

The alternative is Zips doing a live podcast of the draft.

Now that would be funny.

Presenter - "Now Zips, whats your thoughts on the player just taken, he's a very highly rated talent"
Zips - "His *smile* mate"

 

[toothless]

Nothing like the AFL to change something once Richmond work out how to benefit from it. Next year there will be no trading of junk picks for points or something like that.

Nothing surprises me anymore, what would surprise me is if anything favoured us.

 

[nikolasmia]

Nothing like the AFL to change something once Richmond work out how to benefit from it. Next year there will be no trading of junk picks for points or something like that.

if they change the system or they don't we will benefit from the picks we have

If clubs need more picks to match points we win, if it stays the same we are ready to go.

One thing that for sure is that clubs will not need less points

 

[nikolasmia]

You're half right. This year will forever be looked back upon as the year the stars aligned for the Suns, they milked a flawed loophole-ridden system to get 4 gun players for free. A bit like North and the 10 year rule.

The system will still have the same method and intent, it just won't be the total free ride it is at the moment. For example whats her name AFL deputy has already flagged a change will be a club must use a pick in the same round as where the bid comes. So rather than trading pick 4 for 28, 35, 40, 42 or whatever, it will be 4 for 17, and some junk picks. This will mean junk picks will still have value, maybe not as much, and would also mean this years fiasco would never be repeated. They either just wouldn't be able to get the picks to get more than 2, or if they did would have to pay-up big time.

or they should just remove the 20% discount

Easy peasy

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

Now that would be funny.

Presenter - "Now Zips, whats your thoughts on the player just taken, he's a very highly rated talent"
Zips - "His *smile* mate"

And the melts when another club takes a player the PRE hive liked. And the melts when we use a first rounder on a flanker. Or trade back in the draft. And the mispronunciations of players' names.

Zips would need to be coupled with an ex-recruiter for balance.

Dudoro.

 

[rombosghost]

Anyone know what time the rookie and ps drafts kick off today?

 

[mrposhman]

Anyone know what time the rookie and ps drafts kick off today?

3pm

 

[rombosghost]

Found it. 3 PM

 

[mrposhman]

And the melts when another club takes a player the PRE hive liked. And the melts when we use a first rounder on a flanker. Or trade back in the draft. And the mispronunciations of plays names.

Zips would need to be coupled with an ex-recruiter for balance.

Dudoro.

I think it would be any 1st rounder we use "well Richmond have just stuffed that up, clearly that guys a dud, the 3 blind mice have done it again"

 

[bullus_hit]

I should clarify this, I would've gone a different way but we filled needs. I would've filled them with Simpson and Murphy but again, we filled needs and built draft capital next year. I bleated on about not being unhappy about having limited capital in this draft and giving those in charge a semi free pass so I can't go for there throat now. And there is a strategy, we bulked up capital in a draft that is already being talked about as being MID heavy. You can't judge this year's draft nor the Hopper and Tarranto trades until we land next year. That's the challenge but you can see the strategy a lot clearer now.

Tend to agree, in some small way this strategy could drag the Hopper trade into the realms of respectability if we work some magic with these stockpiled picks. It's a longshot but it does give Clarke a fighting chance to even the ledger. The bill for Hopper is Keeler & Curtin, two talls and highly skilled ones at that, but it now becomes plausible the second round pick which I advocated trading last year now becomes 2 or 3 players - McCauliffe & 2 future third rounders next year. I think it's only fair to reserve judgement until the conclusion of the 2024 draft and trading period.

I'm kind of with you on the actual cattle we selected, Simpson & Murphy higher on my rankings too, although I would have had a stab at Schoenmaker with one of those picks.