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Conflicted season
- Thread starter Frank Booth
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Collingwood had played in a GF, Prelim and Semi-final prior to 2021. They were a good side in their prime that had a bad year. Similar to us in 2016.
Right now, we are a side that has finished 11th, 7th, 13th and likely bottom four this year. We are clearly on the decline. We have a hole in our list where the draft talent from 2018-2023 should be. Even if we absolutely knock the cover off the next draft, we are unlikely to see tangible results from those players for three or more years. In the mean time, our veterans will continue to decline in output and retire/be traded off.
Unless we see a massive improvement in 18-24 year olds currently on our list we are staring down 4-5 years minimum before we will be a finalist again.
History suggests that coaches and new coaches in particular, do not last that long without success.
Are any of this years crop generational type talents though? Not from what Ive heard or seen thus far. Fairly even spread of 10-12 players Im hearing with FOS perhaps looking the pick of the crop at this early stage. 2-3 first rounders netting us a couple of those boys will be very handy.
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I also feel we under achieved in 2022 and last year was a write off with injury, coach quitting, it was a perfect storm, so whilst we have been in decline, i dont think we're anywhere near as bad as what the ladder shows for a number of reasons. Most of our young guys will have 15-20 games extra experience going into another preseason, we still have a solid core of very very good afl players - one big draft haul and I believe we can bounce back pretty hard.
I'm with you. Our core is still very good, and this year gives us the chance to accelerate the development of players that haven't been given much time over the last few years. The 1 thing that Dimma didn't do a lot of towards the end was bringing the kids in. Its why we must give blocks of games to the kids and I'm hoping to see that we continue to give blocks of games to some of the kids that have only had 1 or 2 weeks. If we can accelerate that next year with hopefully a full season of Lynch / Gibcus and 3-4 top 10 talents then I agree we can rebound quickly.
We need to take advantage of being a bottom 4 team this year when we probably aren't actually that bad. I suspect we are more your 7-10 team, so I probably look at us now in a similar vein to Port in 2018 when they went to the draft and got Rozee, Butters and Duursma with their 3 1st rounders.
Not certain that is correct dear Posh
2017 - 5 Debutants +Dion, Nank & Cadds
2018 - 3 Debutants
2019 - 7 Debutants + Tom Lynch & Mav Weller
2020 - 2 Debutants
2021 - 7 Debutants + Matt Parker
2022 - 5 Debutants + Robbie Tarrant
2023 - 1 Debutant (whilst Dimma was coach) 5 debutants all up + Taranto & Hopper
Agree with Mr Poshman. The ghosts of Dean Putt and Travis Casserley must be exorcised
Yeah, well put, but I'm gonna be dead before the next dynasty. So well stated though.
And how many games did those kids get?
From my dodgy memory, I often remember my moaning about the lack of gametime given to the young players.
2017 was Butler, Soldo, Shai, Stengle & Graham
2018 was Higgo , Garthwaite & Bakes
2019 was Balta, Stack, Ross, Coleman Jones, Naish, Eggy & Marlion
2020 was Aartsy & Not Paddy Dow
2021 was Mansell, Martyn, RCD, Hugo, Junior , Samson & Funky Miller
2022 was Biggy, Gibbo, Cumbo & Juddy
2023 was Tylar Young (in Dimma's time)
Not too many farces jumping out at me considering we were quite busy winning flags
Yeah nut they also drafted in McCrae and Leppa from Tigerland as well.
Season is rooted.
Hit the draft fire up the TANK !!
Our rebuild couldn't have come at a better time. Need to make the best use of our draft pick haul this year and next and sign our players of the future long enough so they won't be uncontracted when the Tassie team enters the league.
If we leave our rebuild when Tassie comes around we will we'll and truly stuffed for a long time thereafter.
If we leave our rebuild when Tassie comes around we will we'll and truly stuffed for a long time thereafter.
The injury Gods have conspired to allow the RFC with a chance at a bumper draft hand.
In the situation we are in right now we should just play the kids taker our medicine and accept the end of season gifts that we would have missed had we not had the injuries we have,
Take Advantage while we can.
In the situation we are in right now we should just play the kids taker our medicine and accept the end of season gifts that we would have missed had we not had the injuries we have,
Take Advantage while we can.
