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Which 2 part 2

mb64 said:
Which combination did a worse job at Richmond.Miller & Wallace or Frawley & Beck?

Sheesh, that's like asking who's worse, Jack The Ripper or The Boston Strangler :hihi
 
Frawley made silly errors thinking he was doing the best thing for the club.

Wallace thought he knew better.

Wallace was worse IMO.

At least Frawley took us to the finals one year.
 
feisty tige said:
Frawley made silly errors thinking he was doing the best thing for the club.

Wallace thought he knew better.

Wallace was worse IMO.

At least Frawley took us to the finals one year.

Agree feisty. Frawley was inept, Wallace was inept and selfish.
 
jb03 said:
Agree feisty. Frawley was inept, Wallace was inept and selfish.

Agreed. Bloody Robbo on crunchtime today had the nerve to sound off at Richmond supporters for turning on Wallace saying thats been our problem all these years. Just ridiculous comments.
 
IanG said:
Agreed. Bloody Robbo on crunchtime today had the nerve to sound off at Richmond supporters for turning on Wallace saying thats been our problem all these years. Just ridiculous comments.

Surprised Robbo said that.

He is out of line there.
 
IanG said:
Agreed. Bloody Robbo on crunchtime today had the nerve to sound off at Richmond supporters for turning on Wallace saying thats been our problem all these years. Just ridiculous comments.

You mean the same Robbo who wrote Wallace's epitaph a fortnight before he was actually sacked?
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
You mean the same Robbo who wrote Wallace's epitaph a fortnight before he was actually sacked?

The same Robbo who was getting his info from his mate Wallace? Good mates those two.....

ToraToraTora said:
Fraudley/Bex ....life.
Wallet/Lite........the chair.

Well put! :hihi
 
Beck is the worst recruiter in the history of the AFL.
Frawley was very naive.

Miller tried to do everything had a bit of an eye for talent but a shocking football administrator.
Wallace had too much ego and a totally flawed philosophy.

Too close to call, but hang on what makes me sick in the guts though is the second two clowns had the opportunity to watch the first circus act and not repeat the same mistakes - they then proceeded to go out and make exactly the same mistakes. Errors that the average PRE'nder could see a mile away - they were quite simply pathetic.

I've decided - Miller and Wallace due to the opportunity they were presented with i.e. they had it on a platter to build the club up from scratch and they butchered it completely. A truly disgraceful effort, one that may have cost the club its long term viability as a traditional powerhouse.

UNFORGIVABLE :veryupset
 
both have grim ripper stamped on there foreheads, from becks constant below par recruiting and trading for average footballers using very high picks. no future planning, overall a s..t job
but wallace and miller takes the cake. 5 years, 5 picks in the first 20, 27yr richo, 26yr bowden, quality ruck ottens, brand new nathan brown.
total basket case after Beck , i thought we would ve learnt not to make the same mistakes, these clowns used the same blue print,
ive wondered for long time did anyone actually watch fiora, oakley Nichols and gilmore before they got drafted or did they listen just to kevin sheean, ( the same guy that said that pettifier "he will captain the richmond football club" in the pre drafts reports.
 
Miller and Wallet for mine. Squandered five years and delivered us the worst list in the competition. Via arrogance and incompetence refused to take advantage of the drafting system when it was at it's most advantageous. And worst of all has gifted us this abysmal list when we are most unable to do anything about it due to the compromised drafts. It will take many, many years for the damage these two selfish individuals have inflicted upon this club to be remedied.
 
I'm mixing it up a bit and saying Beck and Wallace. Miller was doing approximately 10,382 jobs at the club at the time. I'm not excusing him because I think alot of that was his own fault, but if he was able to just concentrate on recruiting, maybe things might have been better. And Yeah No from day 1 was out of his depth whereas Wallace knew better.
 
Wallace and Miller...they had more resources and support available to them than the others yet had a worse on field record.
 
Frawley by miles - simple fact is that Wallace inherited a list with a missing generation.

The list Frawley inherited wasn't really that bad - but was shot to pieces by the time he was done.
The list was no worse when Wallace left than when he arrived - which is not to excuse him, it should have been much better.

On the other hand, Frawley was an idiot, so no surprise he buggered it up. Wallace should have known better.
 
i prefer the one that took us to finals

spud was honest but hopeless, wallace was a *smile* artist and hopeless