What will be Hardwick's major challenges?

[Tigerhart04]

I think we've had Corporal Agarn for a while now Massai.

Who says I'm dumb ;D

 

[lamb22]

Massai - who are we taking on this team building execise - sounds like a trip to see the wizard of OZ

Petts and Jordy can find their courage;

Jay and Cleve can find some heart;

Kingy, Hislop, Jackson, White, JON, Rainesey, Graham. Rance and Tuck can find a brain;

which leaves the hair gel for Lids and Browny

 

[Massai]

Massai - who are we taking on this team building execise - sounds like a trip to see the wizard of OZ

Petts and Jordy can find their courage;

Jay and Cleve can find some heart;

Kingy, Hislop, Jackson, White, JON, Rainesey, Graham. Rance and Tuck can find a brain;

which leaves the hair gel for Lids and Browny

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Unfortunately you'd have to take the DUD's and all, just to find out if any of the DUD's have what's required inside them. Who know's a lot of us have bagged a significant number of the current playing list for all sorts of reason's, a couple of them might just surprise, but it wouldn't be more than that, the rest are just there purely to make up the numbers.

 

[Ian4]

What will be Hardwick's major challenge? making richo retire and trying to convince the plebs to except it.

a bit of high altitude/team bonding/pre-seaon boot camp would help as well. the boys need to be absolutely flogged on the track.

 

[whatabout]

great post phantom,
the first thing i would do on monday morning is have a meeting and explain to the troops that the culture in the club has now changed and that finals next year is a given.
a very strong, but simple message, which will no doubt grow on the boys while they have there 8 weeks off.
so much of todays footy is played above the shoulders, each player should be given homework { except for the delistees } how can i contribute in helping my team win next years grand final???

 

[ZeroGame]

Massai - who are we taking on this team building execise - sounds like a trip to see the wizard of OZ

Petts and Jordy can find their courage;

Jay and Cleve can find some heart;

Kingy, Hislop, Jackson, White, JON, Rainesey, Graham. Rance and Tuck can find a brain;

which leaves the hair gel for Lids and Browny

I don't remember any hair gel in the Wizard of Oz
Are they doing Something About Mary as well?

 

[Merveille]

great post phantom,
the first thing i would do on monday morning is have a meeting and explain to the troops that the culture in the club has now changed and that finals next year is a given.
a very strong, but simple message, which will no doubt grow on the boys while they have there 8 weeks off.
so much of todays footy is played above the shoulders, each player should be given homework { except for the delistees } how can i contribute in helping my team win next years grand final???

Yep, that should do it.

 

[pahoffm]

great post phantom,
the first thing i would do on monday morning is have a meeting and explain to the troops that the culture in the club has now changed and that finals next year is a given.
a very strong, but simple message, which will no doubt grow on the boys while they have there 8 weeks off.
so much of todays footy is played above the shoulders, each player should be given homework { except for the delistees } how can i contribute in helping my team win next years grand final???

That's it.

Immediately put them in the frame of mind as to what is expected of them.

A clear message.

And it calls for their participation in the planning process.

 

[lamb22]

I don't remember any hair gel in the Wizard of Oz
Are they doing Something About Mary as well?

It's possible. I hear that Dean Wallis is in line to coach the magoos. We might even stretch to a remake of "Dim" and Dimma"

or "Thug and Thugger"

 

[mexican_radio]

at the risk of drifting off topic...I would like to see DH challenge everything that happens at the club in terms of preparing for a match and what transpires on game day. Results tend to indicate that everything we do turns to poo, so why not change it all?
For example, the pre game warmup. I noticed Sydney had a completely different pre game routine to us. We still had the boys congregate around the goal posts and do that goofy looking leg swinging. Ditch that and come up with something new. This is what I am saying, look at everything we do and change it, how much worse can it be?

 

[pahoffm]

at the risk of drifting off topic...I would like to see DH challenge everything that happens at the club in terms of preparing for a match and what transpires on game day. Results tend to indicate that everything we do turns to poo, so why not change it all?
For example, the pre game warmup. I noticed Sydney had a completely different pre game routine to us. We still had the boys congregate around the goal posts and do that goofy looking leg swinging. Ditch that and come up with something new. This is what I am saying, look at everything we do and change it, how much worse can it be?

Agree.

One of the key sub-factors in Leadership is to Challenge Accepted Assumptions.

 

[TOT70]

We still had the boys congregate around the goal posts and do that goofy looking leg swinging. Ditch that and come up with something new. This is what I am saying, look at everything we do and change it, how much worse can it be?

They do that in time to the theme song. Its part of the circus.

Actually, that whole five minute warm-up thingy is useless now that all clubs do it. What is the point of doing three minutes of drills before the game starts? Maybe they could come out and do something ueseful, like a body-pump or Pilates class or some biceps curls? How about they wrestle each other? Or start a fight when the other team come out? Something fun.

Swinging your leg to the tune of Tigerland does look a bit gay.

 

[BladeTiger]

A few thoughts..

- Instilling philosophies and game plans that the players embrace, understand and execute.

- Finding footballers with the required skills capable of achieving the above.

- Leading from the front and instilling confidence in his footballers so that they want to not only play for him but each other.

- Unearthing & mentoring young leaders within the playing group who'll become the fabric of the team over the next decade.

- Having the right balance between hard discipline whilst maintaining an atmosphere that players enjoy being a part of.

- Bringing success to a club that's been starved of it for so long that it's forgotten how to think like winners.

Phanto, I'll tackle it from a military way.

Firstly, one in all in, everyone does exactly the same drill's, physical fitness etc. EVERYONE, no excuses or lateness, anyone late cops a penalty physically eg: 100 push ups or 50 chin ups then and there.

The players fitness is the most worrying aspect to me in two ways firstly the lack of bulk in a lot of players and secondly their ability to run down and hold a tackle against an opponent.

So fitness is first and foremost with DISCIPLINE thrown in. Now once you get everyone cracking on the drills and fitness, then you start on the teamwork with simple tasks that get progressively harder and harder. Again anyone who stuff's it up gets remedial training or discipline to get their house in order.

Once you've got the discipline and teamwork sorted out then you can start to work on the skills issues that a lot of players have and only when that is coming along can one think about gameplan's.

The players need to be taken out of their comfort zones physically and mentally, ideally a nice pre season camp of at least 2 weeks would be good but I don't think they've given it a thought. Still and all, nothing to stop Hardwick from calling his players in for a training drill at 9pm or 4am, changing the way they do fitness work by having them carry packs on their back with 20Kg of sand for the entire long distance running exercise, things like that. Split them up into teams and have them compete against each other, building up those type of physcial exercises into real challenges eg: carrying a heavy log by 6 players for 5Km, or a stretcher with a player on it for 2Km then rotate a player and keep on doing until the 5 players have done it.

Take up the playing group and football staff up into the high country with packs and rations and just walk, nothing silly, perhaps some adventure type training, canoeing or rafting, abseiling or parachuting (those with a fear of heights, their team mates should be able to coax them down and give them the necessary confidence to do it, if not no big deal plenty of people don't like those sorts of things).

If the playing group can handle the above, it will become apparent who is a leader and who is a follower. No problems there either, not everyone can be a leader, so the leadership should be looked at carefully to see who really has it in them to inspire the playing group around them. There should be a defender leader, midfield leader, forward leader, Club Captain, Vice Captain and Senior Leadership Group.

So the above should sort out the issues of discipline, fitness, teamwork, leadership and once that is done then the football skills, handing gameplan's and gameday pressures should all fall into place, but its going to be a long hard road and it won't be easy that is for sure but if they do achieve that sort of bonding, then they will go on from there and start to win for themselves and their team mates.

a team of good ordinary footballers who are fit and strong both physically and mentally who play as a team can go a long way
dont under estimate the approach that massai has so elequently presented, i have experienced it first hand as both a soldier and a senior footballer and it did wonders for the hawks 2 years ago

when a side can go out and display good skills in the first 15 minutes then fall away under pressure and be blown away shows that fitness, confidence and team play all have a bearing on a percieved lack of skills, examples

running hard to create space and seperation allows the player with the ball to have a greater room for error in their kick
shepherding and blocking chasers and tacklers allows the player with the ball more time to settle, make a decision and execute the kick
having the fitness, desire and apptitude to harass and chase opponents reduces their abilty and affects their skills

all of the above contribute to the skill level of the team and all of the above can be improved over summer, im not suggesting this will turn D.Kellaway into C.Judd or Richo into T.Locket but all will help

great post phantom,
the first thing i would do on monday morning is have a meeting and explain to the troops that the culture in the club has now changed and that finals next year is a given.
a very strong, but simple message, which will no doubt grow on the boys while they have there 8 weeks off.
so much of todays footy is played above the shoulders, each player should be given homework { except for the delistees } how can i contribute in helping my team win next years grand final???

Great work and agree with all the above. The Tigers have really become as soft as butter when real pressure is applied and all the above thoughts will go a long way towards rectifying this. Personally, I just want to see a team that I can go and watch and be guaranteed a 100% effort win, lose or draw - there will be nothing left in the tank. This to me is Hardwick's major challenge. Also, a team that is physically capable, fully prepared to knock teams into next week (within the rules of course), and quite capable of payback where required (re: Buddy) would be a bonus!

 

[graystar1]

One of the key sub-factors in Leadership is to Challenge Accepted Assumptions.


Hey there ghost who walks. You must have been to some of the same managerial seminars I attended over the years.

 

[Massai]

One of the key sub-factors in Leadership is to Challenge Accepted Assumptions.


Hey there ghost who walks. You must have been to some of the same managerial seminars I attended over the years.

I never ever accept "accepted assumptions", too dangerous where I worked, always always do your homework first then make your decision. Anyone worth their salt should always challenge the accepted norm, one can always do that little bit better if one put's one mind to it, that is why the culture at Richmond has to change for the better, just accepting what has been done in the past MUST BE thrown out the door for good.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Still and all, nothing to stop Hardwick from calling his players in for a training drill at 9pm or 4am, changing the way they do fitness work by having them carry packs on their back with 20Kg of sand for the entire long distance running exercise, things like that. Split them up into teams and have them compete against each other, building up those type of physcial exercises into real challenges eg: carrying a heavy log by 6 players for 5Km, or a stretcher with a player on it for 2Km then rotate a player and keep on doing until the 5 players have done it.

Sounds like hard work Massaichist. hew
I'd almost pay to see them do that given the pain they've caused supporters this season. > ;D

 

[Massai]

Sounds like hard work Massaichist. hew
I'd almost pay to see them do that given the pain they've caused supporters this season. > ;D

I might be getting a bit of grey hair now, but if Hardwick was to do that, I'd be there in a flash egging them on (no not throwing egg's unless McMuffin passed by - most unlikely).

 

[BladeTiger]

Put me in for a dozen.

 

[poppa x]

Good post Phanto. Thought provoking.

IMO:
- DH has to first identify those players who are soft and show them the door. Perhaps he should browse PRE!
- Then identify those who lack the correct work ethic. Show them the door too.
- With what's left plus the new draftees, he has to create an atmosphere of "togerther-ness". One in all in. A tough pre-season camp will help here - see Massai's suggestion.
- He has to create an atmosphere of NEVER being beaten through lack of effort. It's OK to lose if the opposition is better. But 100% effort is mandatory.
- To be different from other clubs, I would abolish the Player Leadership Groups. My way or the highway and no-one gets special treatment. Richo gets treated like Vickery etc.
- He should also declare all Captain and Vice Captain positions vacant. Based on pre-season effort, he (and only he) can appoint the new leaders.
- The club needs to decide who "speaks for the club". DH? Gale? Cameron? March? Whoever this is must resist media demands to specify win/loss targets in 2010. We should speak with one voice. Disagreements iron out behind closed doors.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

EVERYTHING. When it comes to this team there is not one damn thing that isn't broken.