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What will be Hardwick's major challenges?

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As a new dawn opens for the RFC with Damien Hardwick's arrival, so rises the opportunity to re-examine the elements of change that have to occur at Tigerland if our club is to become a long term premiership challenger.

Each one of us would have a major area of interest that we'd like to see the RFC improve in. It will be the sum of those improvements that Hardwick will endeavour to harness to find general improvement over the whole club.

This is an opportunity to list your area of improvement that you'd like to see at the RFC, on-field or off-field.

As I've started this thread, I'll go first.

The area that I'd like to pick is the greater team working as a Team.

Many of us talk about Team-ship, working together and supporting each other. This is a major factor in Team Culture.

Mateship plays a very big factor in Australian Culture. In fact one of the very few flaws in Australian Culture is when Mateship is given priority over other attributes as Performance, Efficiency, Effort, Development & Satisfaction.

Mateship extends to all areas of Australian society including Sport.
At a local level, how many times have we seen at our local sporting club, decisions being make on the basis of Mateship rather than performance, efficiency, effort, etc?
At a national level, how many times do we look at selections of the Australian cricket team and perceive selections based on the NSW clique rather than on performance and effort.

These are not one offs, but successful clubs and organisations are able to put Mateship in the right perspective or position so it remains a positive force, without negatively affecting performance, efficiency, effort, etc.

Now, as said the RFC is not alone on this. But it is a major factor that affects all clubs differently.
How do you create a WHOLE team, unified in purpose, supporting each other?

For the RFC, over more than a generation there has been a generally accepted view that there is an upper core of established players split significantly from those below.
Some may choose to deny it, but it certainly existed in the 80s, it definitely existed in the 90s, and it's been pretty visible this decade as well.

Some clubs try to overcome this by creating single generation lists, where all the players are of the same age group. But in modern AFL footy there are half a dozen new kids coming onto the list every year, so single generation lists don't work in AFL footy anymore, unless you're prepared to trade off your draft picks for mature players from other clubs.

As an aside, but related, personally, I think Ben Cousins has been a great revelation at Richmond.
Why?
Here was a champion that came from a recently successful AFL club who immediately showed up the lack of leadership by our established players and immediately bonded with the youngsters.
Apparently a new phenomenon at the RFC that everyone was blown away by.

What could be clearer as a club flaw than the fact that it was exposed within a single season.

Over the years, Tiger supporters, including myself, have taken the opportunity to throw stones at our past recruiters.
But if we look closely enough, we are not talking about one or two individual recruiting errors.
What we are really looking at is repeated generation of new recruits who struggle to make the grade.
The last few years have given me the opportunity to look closely at the calibre of our new recruits against those of other clubs, and compare their development at the RFC as compared to those at other clubs.
Statistically, in terms of games played and performance rate the success rate has been pretty much in line with our club's ladder performances.

Take 2005 for example.
And I apologise for taking these individuals as examples.
Oakley-Nicholls, Hughes, Casserley, White & Graham. (I apologise if I've omitted any.)
At recruitment, Oakley-Nicholls, about the same as Courtney Dempsey.
...., Hughes, about the same as Mitch Clark, Paul Bower, Matt Spanger.
...., Casserley, about the same as a Travis Tuck, Bernie Vince, amongst others.
...., White, a hard working small rebounding defender.
...., Graham, about the only tall rucking option at that pick in the rookie draft.
Note, that the top 3 boys were interstate players.
The other two were Victorian players.

I hypothetically ask, how many of this group of boys were strongly embraced by the established group to aid their development.
To me, the two Victorian boys, with their supporting structures already in Melbourne, were the only ones to make significant development.
Oakley-Nicholls & Hughes still struggle.
Interestingly enough, Casserley left the RFC last year, has now turned his football around, has had an excellent WAFL senior season and is knocking on the door of re-selection in the AFL with other clubs.
Funny that!
There are players that don't make it at every club.
There are players in that 2005 draft that didn't make it at other clubs.
But the test of a club is its success in developing its juniors.

At Richmond we are the Tigers. How apt? Our club is very much like the jungle, where very few of its infants survive. The ones that do, grow to become strong individuals.

My challenge for Damien Hardwick, and the RFC, is to turn our club into a Team.
To put in the structures and processes that see all players supporting each other, developing or established, on and off the field.

To strenthen, bond & inure our boys & men into a singly united sharply forged team.

That's my challenge.

I look forward to your other suggestions.
 
In my view, Hardwick's first major challenge is to assemble his support team. I have read several quotes from successful leaders all along the same lines, surround yourself with quality people. With the right team in place, trust will develop and they can begin tackling the types of challenges you have outline above.

Next challenge is to manage change effectively. I am assuming Hardwick has a mandate to make changes, and perhaps these will be big ones, sweeping changes with great scope. I hope this is true but human nature is resistant to change and it needs to be managed well.

With a strong team surrounding him and a carefully considered change process, then Damien can start implementing his ideas.
 
To just take a small quote from your text oh ghost who walks.

How do you create a WHOLE team, unified in purpose, supporting each other?


Is this not a form of mateship?? The Australian way of mateship life was formed through the various wars we fought, where everyone looked after their mates. It was unspoken...you look after me and I will look after you, and that's what happened.

Surely then that attitude is needed for a club to be successful.
 
Thought provoking post Phantom and eloquently submitted as per usual.

The Hughes situation for example is interesting - he seemed to be on the cusp when Polak had the accident and now has gone missing. I wonder if it was
a) he was never up to it anyway
b) the trauma of the incident has been too much
c) Polak was one of his few close friends at the club and the absence of a strong leadership network and development program left him without direction
(or a combination perhaps)

I'm also on your band wagon with Cousins. The way his leadership has stood out despite his recent background really does emphasize how lacking in this area we have been. I wonder if we have a succession plan for him to be an assistant coach when the time comes.

The bit on mateship, I get where you're coming from, though I'm not sure the word is right. Cronyism might be closer (I dunno)
 
His biggest challenge will be trying to rebuild the team (going backwards to go forwards) while trying to keep the ferals off who expect results immediately.
 
mexican_radio said:
In my view, Hardwick's first major challenge is to assemble his support team. I have read several quotes from successful leaders all along the same lines, surround yourself with quality people. With the right team in place, trust will develop and they can begin tackling the types of challenges you have outline above.

Next challenge is to manage change effectively. I am assuming Hardwick has a mandate to make changes, and perhaps these will be big ones, sweeping changes with great scope. I hope this is true but human nature is resistant to change and it needs to be managed well.

With a strong team surrounding him and a carefully considered change process, then Damien can start implementing his ideas.

Well put Mex. An obvious example is our current political scene. The Labor party has a good unified team around it's leader, whilst the Coalition seems fragmented without a strong team ethic. More's the pity I might add, but that is why Mex is so right. The Tigers will need a strong team to meet the challenges ahead, all pulling in the same direction.
 
Phantom said:
As a new dawn opens for the RFC with Damien Hardwick's arrival, so rises the opportunity to re-examine the elements of change that have to occur at Tigerland if our club is to become a long term premiership challenger.

Each one of us would have a major area of interest that we'd like to see the RFC improve in. It will be the sum of those improvements that Hardwick will endeavour to harness to fing general improvement over the whole club.

This is an opportunity to list your area of improvement that you'd like to see at the RFC, on-field or off-field.

As I've started this thread, I'll go first.

The area that I'd like to pick is the greater team working as a Team.

Many of us talk about Team-ship, working together and supporting each other. This is a major factor in Team Culture.

Mateship plays a very big factor in Australian Culture. In fact one of the very few flaws in Australian Culture is when Mateship is given priority over other attributes as Performance, Efficiency, Effort, Development & Satisfaction.

Mateship extends to all areas of Australian society including Sport.
At a local level, how many times have we seen at our local sporting club, decisions being make on the basis of Mateship rather than performance, efficiency, effort, etc?
At a national level, how many times do we look at selections of the Australian cricket team and perceive selections based on the NSW clique rather than on performance and effort.

These are not one offs, but successful clubs and organisations are able to put Mateship in the right perspective or position so it remains a positive force, without negatively affecting performance, efficiency, effort, etc.

Now, as said the RFC is not alone on this. But it is a major factor that affects all clubs differently.
How do you create a WHOLE team, unified in purpose, supporting each other?

For the RFC, over more than a generation there has been a generally accepted view that there is an upper core of established players split significantly from those below.
Some may choose to deny it, but it certainly existed in the 80s, it definitely existed in the 90s, and it's been pretty visible this decade as well.

Some clubs try to overcome this by creating single generation lists, where all the players are of the same age group. But in modern AFL footy there are half a dozen new kids coming onto the list every year, so single generation lists don't work in AFL footy anymore, unless you're prepared to trade off your draft picks for mature players from other clubs.

As an aside, but related, personally, I think Ben Cousins has been a great revelation at Richmond.
Why?
Here was a champion that came from a recently successful AFL club who immediately showed up the lack of leadership by our established players and immediately bonded with the youngsters.
Apparently a new phenomenon at the RFC that everyone was blown away by.

What could be clearer as a club flaw than the fact that it was exposed within a single season.

Over the years, Tiger supporters, including myself, have taken the opportunity to throw stones at our past recruiters.
But if we look closely enough, we are not talking about one or two individual recruiting errors.
What we are really looking at is repeated generation of new recruits who struggle to make the grade.
The last few years have given me the opportunity to look closely at the calibre of our new recruits against those of other clubs, and compare their development at the RFC as compared to those at other clubs.
Statistically, in terms of games played and performance rate the success rate has been pretty much in line with our club's ladder performances.

Take 2005 for example.
And I apologise for taking these individuals as examples.
Oakley-Nicholls, Hughes, Casserley, White & Graham. (I apologise if I've omitted any.)
At recruitment, Oakley-Nicholls, about the same as Courtney Dempsey.
...., Hughes, about the same as Mitch Clark, Paul Bower, Matt Spanger.
...., Casserley, about the same as a Travis Tuck, Bernie Vince, amongst others.
...., White, a hard working small rebounding defender.
...., Graham, about the only tall rucking option at that pick in the rookie draft.
Note, that the top 3 boys were interstate players.
The other two were Victorian players.

I hypothetically ask, how many of this group of boys were strongly embraced by the established group to aid their development.
To me, the two Victorian boys, with their supporting structures already in Melbourne, were the only ones to make significant development.
Oakley-Nicholls & Hughes still struggle.
Interestingly enough, Casserley left the RFC last year, has now turned his football around, has had an excellent WAFL senior season and is knocking on the door of re-selection in the AFL with other clubs.
Funny that!
There are players that don't make it at every club.
There are players in that 2005 draft that didn't make it at other clubs.
But the test of a club is its success in developing its juniors.

At Richmond we are the Tigers. How apt? Our club is very much like the jungle, where very few of its infants survive. The ones that do, grow to become strong individuals.

My challenge for Damien Hardwick, and the RFC, is to turn our club into a Team.
To put in the structures and processes that see all players supporting each other, developing or established, on and off the field.

To strenthen, bond & inure our boys & men into a singly united sharply forged team.

That's my challenge.

I look forward to your other suggestions.
Very good post there Phantom. Totally agree with what you are saying. Actually only a week or so ago I heard that a certain player who is now much maligned amongst the Richmond faithful, quickly being shut down by the senior players during his first few weeks at Punt Road for being 'too vocal' during training. Could be a very good reason why we have so many introverts at the club. What I heard could be crap but it goes along the lines of what Phantom is saying.
 
You create a team by bonding a group of young men together. They work for each other, share good times and bad and become mates. They will do anything for each other, including supporting their mates when their place in the team is in danger. Over time, renewal occurs and others replace some of the mates and it is no longer the same. It begins to unravel. That is the nature of sporting teams, they go through cycles.

Did you hear about Brad Hodge's little meltdown over selection policy? SEN was quoting him left and right this morning. Essentially, he had this to say about the Australian team. Because so many of them are from NSW, they are all mates and look after each other. As an outsider, he would be competing for a place in the team where the incumbent is someone like Katich, who he actually named, and his mates would lobby for him to help keep him in the team. He has found it very difficult to break this stranglehold. Even Ponting has lived in NSW for at least the last ten years. So the Aussie Cricket team has been more of a social club than an elite representative team. Fine when it is winning. That is probably why they were winning.

There are only two known circuit-breakers to this cycle. The first is to clean out and start again with a new group and go through the bonding process again. The second is the Manchester United/ Real Madrid solution. Keep buying the best. Carlton have done exactly that with Judd. Cousins has offered us a similar opportunity, but only for a year or two.

The last time we had a group of players who had bonded together in this way was in the mid-1990s. Free, Gale, Knights, Campbell, Daffy, Broderick, Maxfield, Turner, Naish and Kellaway all played for each other. Every other Richmond group has been more fragmented.

Here’s another chance.
 
graystar1 said:
To just take a small quote from your text oh ghost who walks.

How do you create a WHOLE team, unified in purpose, supporting each other?


Is this not a form of mateship?? The Australian way of mateship life was formed through the various wars we fought, where everyone looked after their mates. It was unspoken...you look after me and I will look after you, and that's what happened.

Surely then that attitude is needed for a club to be successful.

Interesting view.

Agree that mateship, in the right context, is a powerful support mechanism.
However, if mateship extends to a few, and not to all, it becomes a negative factor.
In it's extreme, as Mac posts, it becomes Croneyism.

Not saying that the Tiges established group suffers fron Croneyism, but I would tend to believe in lies somewhere in the moderate range where it may not be working as a truly positive force.
 
Phantom said:
I hypothetically ask, how many of this group of boys were strongly embraced by the established group to aid their development.
To me, the two Victorian boys, with their supporting structures already in Melbourne, were the only ones to make significant development.
Oakley-Nicholls & Hughes still struggle.
Interestingly enough, Casserley left the RFC last year, has now turned his football around, has had an excellent WAFL senior season and is knocking on the door of re-selection in the AFL with other clubs.
Funny that!
There are players that don't make it at every club.
There are players in that 2005 draft that didn't make it at other clubs.
But the test of a club is its success in developing its juniors.

I look forward to your other suggestions.

Agree that the necessary support structures, assistances etc are a priority but I take them as a given.

Interesting point re casserley

Given we will be limited by the number of players we can take in any one draft will mean we cannot delist / trade perhaps everyone that should go in the first year.

I believe the biggest challenge for Hardwick is to identify those second tier players whom he believes he can take to the next level. Can a new coach turn around the performance of a Hughes or a JON for example or have they done their dosh at rfc are now effectively past it (mentally at least) ? They at least have youth on their side.

So my challenge is for him (and his new team) to be able to accurately assess the talent on the list and identify those that can be turned around and those who are gone. Some will be given a 1 year repreive simply because not all can go at once.

I take as a given that most of the older brigade (28 and over) will be gone except for richo and cuz.
 
Great post Phanto. Quite cerebral and considered and seems to be receiving the serious responses that are often absent on PRE threads.

I believe that DH's major challenges are to do with his ongoing development as a leader and are as follows:

1. He now has the organisational leadership authority, whereas previously his leadership position was more informal. He needs to use this well,
2. Consistency - he will be involved in many decisions at macro and micro level. He needs to ensure that he thinks through each one and is consistent.
3. Be prepared to admit mistakes and acknowledge when he doesn't have the answer. Not doing this is a major trap for newly appointed leaders who think that admitting ignorance is a sign of weakness when in fact the opposite is true.
4. He needs to be a humble leader.

I wisk DH all the best on his journey.
 
Damians first challenges?? Geezus where does he begin? He'll feel like a parent who's gone away on holidays and has come back to find his kids have run amok!!!
 
In these days of the me generation, it has to be much harder to maintain the team concept.

They are too busy updating facebook or myspace... (ie Phil Hughes..)
 
A few thoughts..

- Instilling philosophies and game plans that the players embrace, understand and execute.

- Finding footballers with the required skills capable of achieving the above.

- Leading from the front and instilling confidence in his footballers so that they want to not only play for him but each other.

- Unearthing & mentoring young leaders within the playing group who'll become the fabric of the team over the next decade.

- Having the right balance between hard discipline whilst maintaining an atmosphere that players enjoy being a part of.

- Bringing success to a club that's been starved of it for so long that it's forgotten how to think like winners.
 
Good thing with so many kids on the list and coming onto it, Harwick will be ingrain it very quickly.........no bad habits
 
Good post Phantom
Acceptable standard skills from each player are a given.....attitude is the variable.
Create a team culture.

If I was Hardwick, to build team bonding, I would start by:
> insisting that the whole Richmond list (and maybe include the Coburg regulars) train together at all times.
> Get Coburg to play in Richmond strip (or look at being a stand alone VFL club).
> Where the draw permits, all senior players to attend Coburg games (injured players compulsory).
 
Get rid of another Wallace brainwash in the players: tapping each other's hands everytime a player comes off or kicks a goal.

For the sake of mateship, it looks too fake and pansy and reminds me of wrestling.