The speculative players will likely be better than RCD and Martyn. These boys just aren't up to it.
Miller is in his 5th seasonAgree, he was good yesterday and those numbers in isolation look impressive.
However, he’s a 22yo AFL listed player in his 4th season. He really should putting in performances like yesterday every single week but he hasn’t.
I still think it’s time for both parties to move on. Riley’s had 4 years and hasn’t established himself in the best 22-26 players on our list yet. The Club has put a lot of development into him but it hasn’t paid off like both parties have probably hoped for. Time give others an opportunity.
Not sure Jack on this one.For mine a *smile* moral to be on our list next season and likely in the ones. A year older than Dow who may be a fraction ahead at the same age.
He's not Trent Cotchin. He never will be.
COVID hurt these youngsters. RCD trends up every month. In the VFA he is a monster. Slow? Yeah, nah. The big white sticks beckon. The big ones, Riley.
If RCD gets the arse it's about compliance. We can get him to comply.
He is a slow developer and playing well at VFL level shown by his stats but it's hardly fair to say he's had 4 years with us when he didn't play matches for 2 years due to Covid. Same goes for all our VFL squad, look at how Miller has improved.Agree, he was good yesterday and those numbers in isolation look impressive.
However, he’s a 22yo AFL listed player in his 4th season. He really should putting in performances like yesterday every single week but he hasn’t.
I still think it’s time for both parties to move on. Riley’s had 4 years and hasn’t established himself in the best 22-26 players on our list yet. The Club has put a lot of development into him but it hasn’t paid off like both parties have probably hoped for. Time give others an opportunity.
We did draft him as a project player.
And we should expect a higher number of late bloomers than usual following the complex challenges of covid.
I remember reading we had Butler on the delist pile with 4 weeks to go in 2016 VFL season, but in the final matches of the year he punched up his disposals and goals almost out of nowhere, which was enough to win another contract and played in 23 AFL games and a flag 12 months later.Someone on PRE said, (was emphatic about it actually), that Riley got low possession numbers in Juniors and that is all he will ever get playing against men.
Ok Riley has been out favor with selectors and many on PRE of course but the one thing that has improved are his numbers, he averaged 21.35 possessions over the VFL season and finished the season strongly averaging 27.5 possessions for the last 5 games.
I think he will probably make his own decision to look elsewhere and should have no trouble finding a suitor.
*I would prefer him to stay another year.
4 of his final 5 games were against bush league teams. he had 20 against the Lions in that time.Someone on PRE said, (was emphatic about it actually), that Riley got low possession numbers in Juniors and that is all he will ever get playing against men.
Ok Riley has been out favor with selectors and many on PRE of course but the one thing that has improved are his numbers, he averaged 21.35 possessions over the VFL season and finished the season strongly averaging 27.5 possessions for the last 5 games.
I think he will probably make his own decision to look elsewhere and should have no trouble finding a suitor.
*I would prefer him to stay another year.
you're hitting the wrong key there mateHe,ll go and I doubt he,ll have any suitors.
4 of his final 5 games were against bush league teams. he had 20 against the Lions in that time.
i dont have a view on whether he should stay or not, but posters bumping up his late season form are ignoring the quality of the opposition.
my post wasnt directed at you, just in general.I'm ignoring nothing & have been to many of those games, were purely adding content to 123 cups project/late bloomers post and presenting hope that Riley is capable of and is improving his numbers regardless of the opposition, as for improving his other shortfalls I think one more pre-season will give us the answer.
Many here have already made up their mind and that's fine.