Toby's brain fades, especially in finals have been going on for years. To call him a bit of a moron is a bit harsh considering we don't know his intellectual capacity! He has to accept personal responsibility for his actions but GWS must take some blame here as well. They must stop excusing his behaviour as "playing on the edge" therefore he might go over the edge now and again. BS. Have they tried giving him the support he has needed through a sports psyche like Emma? Re-directing his anger, not losing focus, staying in the moment, etc. Perhaps it's too late for him now, but it's clear to me he has been let down.
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IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.
WEEK 1 FINALS 2021
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Hmmmm....not sure why so upset about this.
The point I was making was that the umpire was in amongst the GWS group of players as they walked away.
It was not his place to be there !
He was placing himself where contact was a potential problem. Toby should have avoided him but the fault was not only Toby's.
Similar situations
1 Hawks player who got infront of Soldo as he walked away , making contact very likely. Soldo suspended.
2 Umpire tells players where he is backing away after a bounce , to warn them not to get in his way, to avoid contact. If they get in this position and contact is made, the player is guilty, not the umpire.
Point is the umpire made contact much more likely as he was amongst the players as they walked off. Some responsibility is his.
FWIW...the contact was minimal and the apologists amongst us are getting up in arms over nothing.
Yes. Cannot do anything except go for a walk. Cannot converse with neighbours, have to have grocery delivery when they have goods available.
Thank goodness for PRE and Foxtel to at least have semblance of living.
Umpires interact with players all the time but amazingly 99.9% of players avoid shoulder bumping them. Incredible.
The fault is all Toby's. He's no victim. He's a highly talented footballer. But a recidivist who's had countless people try and help him grow up. No doubt we will read another story from someone outside football who is mentoring him and will tell us what a terrific fellow he is. And leader. That's 2 key finals this leader will miss through self-indulgence? Stupidity? Arrogance? That's not leadership.
Apologists?
Yeh its horrible. Dm me if you need food I can get some delivered to you
Thank you so much rensman, for your caring for a fellow Tiger and wife.
However we are coping with Woolies and Coles delivering.
Looks like Shepparton will miss out on any slight lifting of restrictions.
Thanks again.
I'll challenge the Soldo event
small context
a goal has been kicked and Ivan turns and runs back to the centre
the Hawks player jumps in front of him to intiate contact and throws head back a la Selwood
Soldo braced himself with his forearm , pure reflex , contact between the two was made
I believe no contact above the chest , but you had to watch real close
Soldo gets a week
the larger context
Lil Gaz had twice hunted guys from behind and the side jumping up to bang his forearm into their heads
clips played endlessly , and lil Gaz gets off
the football world was screaming
and the Soldo incident presents itself , real pennies from heaven stuff, at that time he is a football nobody , totally expendable , gone
they would have read out the verdict before they read out the charge stuff ...
1 or 2 weeks later lil Gaz does it again and this time goes
in the context of Greene - Stevic it isn't a valid precedent , its player / player were some level of contact is accepted , player / umpire is treated very differently
players have to be ultra aware of the umpires and avoid contact at all costs , some common sense has been applied to goal umpire contact thankfully , remember the Dusty incident
With the figures in Victoria today and no doubt big numbers in NSW.... If the finals actually make it to the end as scheduled. ..... I'll be staggered.
The AFL is crazy imo having the pre GF bye.... flirting with disaster!
I'm kinda glad we're not playing finals now. We already missed out on attending one premiership in 2020. Missing out on 2 would have been unbearable.
We should also take some comfort in knowing that this should be the last COVID affected season (well unless a new COVID strain is immune to vaccines).
