Wallace's flankers? they're back ...

[FitenFitenWin]

Sling shot footy - where its played off a mobile back line - has the advantage of opening up the forward line. The type of forward operation Jack should have been working in for years now.

Our forward line is going to look so much better.

 

[Tames]

Our skillful run off half back is going to eviscerate most teams. Not only do I expect us to restrict opposition scoring like we did so well in 2016, I expect our transition to feature a combination of pass up play and hard gut running into space.

This may get us to the finals (hopefully , but the same game plan won't work once we are there. Finals = contested ball, so we need a plan B.

 

[yandb]

And where is Houli?

No way he gets left out of that back 6. Same goes with Vlastuin.

Menadue needs to play on a wing.

That back 6 would leak goals like a sieve.

Houli is not the tightest defender and struggles under pressure. Get the ball out to him in the open well that is his bread and butter and he will rebound the ball.

Problem is there is not much open space in finals.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Houli is not the tightest defender and struggles under pressure. Get the ball out to him in the open well that is his bread and butter and he will rebound the ball.

Problem is there is not much open space in finals.

No doubt his bread and butter is to get out on the open and create play off half back. But your off the mark with his defensive contributions. He is far better than what you credit him for.

 

[billyb#40]

Our younger squad

FB: Castagna Elton Broad
Hb: Vlastuin ------ Drummond
C: ------- Mcintosh Menadue
CHF: C Ellis Mckenzie Lennon
FF: Rioli McBean C Moore
Rk: Chol Townsend B Ellis
I/c. Soldo Markov butler short

that's our under 23 squad next year.
20 players. 13 ND, 6 rookies, 1 x-giant
IMO we should prioritise a CHB and a tall express midfielder.

That team has a good amount of speed, power running, skills and x-factor.

Ashbury or Chol CHB, Markov (the year) on the wing, and in 3-4 years were locked and loaded for a threepeat

 

[UKTiger]

This may get us to the finals (hopefully , but the same game plan won't work once we are there. Finals = contested ball, so we need a plan B.

Need a plan B? Most weeks we barely had a plan A

 

[DragicevicFan]

Need a plan B? Most weeks we barely had a plan A

Yes we did. The Richmond way.

 

[blx]

Castagna will surprise blx. His kicking can be errant but I think that's mostly a function of the lack of poise that young guys can have.

Multiple pre seasons and better conditioning will improve that aspect out of sight.

I saw him continually missing his partner in regular kick to kick. Does that count as "lack of poise"?

Good luck to the kid.

 

[Tigerfan]

I saw him continually missing his partner in regular kick to kick. Does that count as "lack of poise"?

Good luck to the kid.

They might be remedying a flawed kicking action.
It's like skill rehab.
It's better to spend the time kicking properly and iron out the errors, than continue with the flaw.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I saw him continually missing his partner in regular kick to kick. Does that count as "lack of poise"?

Good luck to the kid.

Yeah he's got a lot of tidying up to do. Love the way he takes it on unfortunately sprays it more than a can of Mortein.

 

[toby64]

My feeling is that Carter is right that our best 22 at the end of 2016 will look quite different to the one we ended 2015 with

I would hope so given the best 22 at the end of 2015 wasn't good enough.

 

[TheCan]

We need a ruckman but I reckon our list is taking on a very exciting shape. A Terry Wallace shape.

The absence of a monster ruck will mean we play a running half back game similar to what we rolled out in around Round 7 this year. We did get some ballast to protect Cotchin and Miles in the form of Townsend, Marcon and perhaps A. Moore, but which of those guys will step up like Lambert did this year?

The truth is that we will lose contested ball as often as we did this year. But that won't matter. This is why:

Yarran
Menadue
Houli
Castagna
Drummond
(Markov)
(Broad)
(Moore)

Our skillful run off half back is going to eviscerate most teams. Not only do I expect us to restrict opposition scoring like we did so well in 2016, I expect our transition to feature a combination of pass up play and hard gut running into space.

The problem for Dimma previously was that allowing guys to run means that you need guys up the field who can read the play. Hard running off half back is hard to read. These guys can run into dead ends, they can cut unexpected angles, they can simply run out of puff.

We also haven't really dared to put men too far forward of the ball in the past (but that's another story, children).

Now we have guys that can make the best of a 50/50 situation in Lennon, McBean, Lloyd, Rioli, to go along with natural football geniuses like Riewoldt and Deledio.

How's this for a dynamic back six:

Menadue Chaplin Grimes
Yarran Rance Castagna

I expect that to be rolled out in the second half of next year. Batch out. Hunt out. Houli up the ground or out. Vlastuin will obviously play back but might get time in the middle too.

The seeds of evidence can be found in the recruitment of guys like Callum Moore from the rookie draft and Nathan Broad from the national draft. These guys may take time but they can run and they can kick to advantage extremely well.

We'll have running types who can kick the ball pushing through for the next 5/6 years. It's Wallace's flankers all over again.

Except this time we might actually be on trend.

I stop reading at WALLACE

 

[TigerMasochist]

Could I suggest these changes. Extra players needed for the I/C but let's get a team on the ground. CMoore played some defence in TAC I believe and with his kicking, might be better down back than in front of goal; can employ his running power too. Chol perfect for resting ruck/forward with his spring, good hands and neat kicking. I'd swap the two Macs as KFs too; believe McBean is the more mobile and versatile to play up the ground whereas McKenzie will be the 'monster in the square' type, not to say they couldn't mix it up at times. Could add Lambert and Marcon to bench perhaps as still young players, as is Miles.
But definitely a lot of promise with these tiger cubs on the list now.

FB: Castagna Elton Broad
HB: Vlastuin C Moore Drummond
C: Markov Mcintosh Menadue
HF: C Ellis McBean Lennon
FF: Rioli Mckenzie Chol
RK: Soldo, Townsend, B Ellis
I/C. Butler / Short

That's a handy magoos side at the moment leon. Apart from the handful of regular seniors most of these blokes are a couple of years from consistent senior footy at least.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Which is kinda why they won't roll them out in round 1.

A year is a long time in footy.

As is a pre season.

Not against the thoughts of Castagna n Menadue distributing off the back line Carts, just don't think we're gunna see much of either in 2016. Cameos at times for either, rarely both together, they've both still got plenty of development work to do.

 

[Giardiasis]

What happened to back 7?

 

[josey]

What happened to back 7?

More importantantly what happened to a back 6 that can win critical contests.

In a lineup of :

Menadue Chaplin Grimes

Yarran Rance Castagna

Rance and Grimes certainly have some work to do, or do we only attack from the back half after the opposition kick a point?

 

[Baloo]

We had one of the best defences in the AFL last year. Why would we make a radical change ?

 

[Jonesracing82]

More importantantly what happened to a back 6 that can win critical contests.

In a lineup of :

Menadue Chaplin Grimes

Yarran Rance Castagna

Rance and Grimes certainly have some work to do, or do we only attack from the back half after the opposition kick a point?

We had one of the best defences in the AFL last year. Why would we make a radical change ?

that's a worrying back 6 if i am honest. say in the final when the mids are getting hammered & we have the ball flying into our backline far too easily & we only have 3 defenders in there & 3 players who are best at running the ball out, not stopping thier man, we'll cop bigger hidings than we got in the Final.

i'd be leaving the back 6 as it is structure wise as it's our strongest line week in/week out.

 

[mrposhman]

that's a worrying back 6 if i am honest. say in the final when the mids are getting hammered & we have the ball flying into our backline far too easily & we only have 3 defenders in there & 3 players who are best at running the ball out, not stopping thier man, we'll cop bigger hidings than we got in the Final.

i'd be leaving the back 6 as it is structure wise as it's our strongest line week in/week out.

I agree. Its far more likely that we will slot Yarran in there in place of either Batchelor or Hunt and leave the rest as is. I reckon it will be more flexible than that as well and we will have 2 back 6's depending on which opposition we are playing.

If Menadue really steps up then it gives us the option of playing him and throwing one of Houli or Yarran into the forward line or onto a wing.

 

[Jonesracing82]

for mine Menadue plays on a wing, ditto Drummond, Batch plays against taller backlines & Yarran replaces Hunt maybe? Hunt may even be given tagging duties tho maybe Townsend could get that role. NAB games will sort out the pecking order