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Video Games: violence and addiction?

Panthera tigris FC said:
And the world is poorer for it ;D. Ah...Double Dragon...where have you gone?

Bugger that...it was all about Galaga on the tabletop consoles. ;D

Double Dragon that's the one! :rofl

Talk about a blast from the past.
 
Freezer said:
Definitely. The "babysitting" aspect is a big one I think. Kids aren't causing the parents any problems while they're stuck in their room or at the TV. Makes life pretty easy all round. But I think it's detrimental to the kids in the longer term and certainly not good for family and interpersonal relationships.

Totally agree as well, though the world is moving faster, people working longer hours, pressured to earn more money which means less time with family.....ah we could go on to many influences on this discussion.
 
its not the game, its just a self centered kid who had his bat and ball taken away from him and spat it.

be it computer games, d&d, footy cards, elvis, or whatever, there is always something kids focus on. when deprived some kids cry and *smile* and moan, some go psychotic. don't ask me what causes them to do it, on that I have no idea (parenting, "bad seed", don't know), but I never buy "its the times" argument, because every generation has its issues.
 
Tiger74 said:
its not the game, its just a self centered kid who had his bat and ball taken away from him and spat it.

be it computer games, d&d, footy cards, elvis, or whatever, there is always something kids focus on. when deprived some kids cry and b!tch and moan, some go psychotic. don't ask me what causes them to do it, on that I have no idea (parenting, "bad seed", don't know), but I never buy "its the times" argument, because every generation has its issues.

Agree 100%.
 
Dyer Disciple said:
That is the kid's issues though, not caused by D&D itself, that's merely what made his issues apparent.

Spot on and its the same with the Halo 3 case. The game didn't cause his psychosis.
 
a whacko is a whacko, its got nothing to do with video games and all about the parenting. good discussion

and for the record the OFLC should allow for x rated video games. its crazy that i have to import my copy of GTA 4 from asia just to get the full experience of the game as the designers intended it to be played
 
LidsandCotch said:
a whacko is a whacko, its got nothing to do with video games and all about the parenting. good discussion

This is a pretty strong statement. I agree that the games themselves don't maketh the monster, however it isn't always the parents either. Many times kids are just born with that nature. Active parenting may help to prevent such tragedies, but it isn't always (or even usually) the parenting that leads to this outcome.

and for the record the OFLC should allow for x rated video games. its crazy that i have to import my copy of GTA 4 from asia just to get the full experience of the game as the designers intended it to be played

Fair enough, but where do you draw the line? Should snuff films be allowed, because that was how their designers intended them to be viewed? What about violent pornography?

I agree that there is a clear distinction between these examples and GTA4 (ie victims in each case) however we are talking about the impact of such media on the viewer.
 
LidsandCotch said:
and for the record the OFLC should allow for x rated video games. its crazy that i have to import my copy of GTA 4 from asia just to get the full experience of the game as the designers intended it to be played

Why was GTA 4 banned? Drug use? Violence? Because in say Far Cry 2 I can graphically shoot people close up.
 
IanG said:
Why was GTA 4 banned? Drug use? Violence? Because in say Far Cry 2 I can graphically shoot people close up.

it wasn't banned, it was edited. some of the bump and grind that happens in the park car was changed (apparently we just see the car bobbing up and down).
 
Panthera tigris FC said:
This is a pretty strong statement. I agree that the games themselves don't maketh the monster, however it isn't always the parents either. Many times kids are just born with that nature. Active parenting may help to prevent such tragedies, but it isn't always (or even usually) the parenting that leads to this outcome.

Fair enough, but where do you draw the line? Should snuff films be allowed, because that was how their designers intended them to be viewed? What about violent pornography?

I agree that there is a clear distinction between these examples and GTA4 (ie victims in each case) however we are talking about the impact of such media on the viewer.

i was a little broad when i said that and probably should have said that active positive parenting could avoid it but in most cases its not the game/movie/album/book to blame.

using gta 4 as an example the edited/banned content is only of a fairly modest sexual nature and if it was movie content would easily fall into a classification. only because the highest rating for games is R do we miss on the full game. as far as comparing it to snuff movies. i wouldn't go that far as i would consider GTA4 to be fairly mainstream content
 
Yeah,it's shame they compromised GTA4,if only in a minor fashion.

It is totally unnecessary anyway--there is feature where u can play a parental control version of the game emebedded in the software.

Yet another example where the government feels they are better qualified to parent,than parents themselves,

Awesome game BTW--best I've ever played.
 
evo said:
Yeah,it's shame they compromised GTA4,if only in a minor fashion.

It is totally unnecessary anyway--there is feature where u can play a parental control version of the game emebedded in the software.

Yet another example where the government feels they are better qualified to parent,than parents themselves,

Awesome game BTW--best I've ever played.

This isn't so much Big Brother at work here, but the lack of a R and X rating for games. The fact you cannot get an R rating for a game means by default it cannot be sold here (if it fails the MA15+ benchmarks). Personally I have this caught up with dumb bureaucrats who don't get there is a legitimate market of 18+ gamers out there.
 
It is probably a bit of both
Tiger74 said:
Personally I have this caught up with dumb bureaucrats who don't get there is a legitimate market of 18+ gamers out there.
Yeah I think you may be right about that.They are totally out of touch.
 
What sort of controls do you blokes use ? I use Fribrams. Find that they are the best for playing games.

Anyone played Beheaded Priest VI ? Awesome.
 
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I think this cartoon sums it up nicely. ;D

Seems to be all sorts of contradicting research both for and against the implications of children's exposure to violent games so it's hard to gain much from it at all really.

Do violent games/films make kids want to committ violence?
Despite starting this thread, I have never thought so but I am glad through ratings systems that they are prevented from seeing violent media too early because common sense tells me it's not right.
Innocence is probably the thing that gets lost the earlier children are exposed to such things and youth isn't as equipped to understand the difference between reality and fantasy as adults, even if they think they are.

A study that was released today suggested that ideally kids shouldn't be exposed to screens(TV or games) for more than two hours a day. I would think that's a pretty healthy balance for kids under 16. I really do believe much of the problems we are facing is irresponsible parents exposing their kids to far more than that.

I have a mate with three boys under 11 and I am forever amazed at how much he and his wife let them play/watch all sorts of stuff irrespective of ratings or time spent. Obviously I would never comment to him directly but it's no wonder the kids are always having problems at school with the lack of parenting that goes on in that house. :-\

Like most things I firmly believe parents have got to be the ones ultimately doing the censorship and monitoring their kids behaviour. No good blaming the games after the fact.
 
willo said:
Toss the gameboys out and buy them a cricket bat and a footy :angel:

i like the idea of he bat and footy but brain training on the DS is a lot of fun
 
LidsandCotch said:
i like the idea of he bat and footy but brain training on the DS is a lot of fun

I got bored really quick with that - "blue, black, red, blue, red...." ;D
 
Dunno about this deep what causes violence in the youth of today talk.

All Leysy knows is that the big slow types of brutes in games of yesteryear wouldnt keep up with the sleek modern characters of today.