Have to agree somewhat TM.
I have a feeling both will hang up the boots at end of season win or lose. Jack in particular has lost it and should retire. No way is he the player of the good old days.
Jack will go round again. And despite the criticism levelled at him at different points this year, he still has more than enough to offer.
Cotchin should go around again, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him retire.