Training For 2023

[caesar]

There's a lot of options with wrists but I'm guessing the most likely here is a scaphoid fracture, which is a little bone below the base of your thumb that connects to the wrist joint.

If it is not displaced then a cast is all that is required, the big clue would be if he has been wearing a guard that protects the thumb and limits the movement of it. Scaphoids are often presented as being a 'sore thumb'.

If it was not displaced and the cast has been effective then he was likely meeting the surgeon yesterday to monitor the success of the treatment.

He'd be in a cast for 4-6, and 6-8 weeks before really getting going normally in terms of strength and full function, but it could be as long as 12 before you can play a contact sport. Sounds like he is getting close to the 6-8 range so you should see him start to gradually ramp up contact if all is going well.

The meet with the surgeon on Monday determined surgery is required yet he trained the next day so I were wondering what still enabled him to train when he has upcoming surgery?

Last weeks injury report:

Tom Brown, wrist

"Tom's been training non-contact. He has an appointment with his specialist next week and will probably get another scan on his arm, and hopefully he'll get good news and he'll be available next week or the week after."

This weeks injury report:

Young defender Tom Brown will be unavailable for the medium-term after suffering a setback in his recovery from a wrist injury.

"Unfortunately Tom had an appointment with a specialist on Monday and the decision has been made to have surgery on his wrist, ruling him out for the medium-term," Meehan said.

 

[The Big Richo]

The meet with the surgeon on Monday determined surgery is required yet he trained the next day so I were wondering what still enabled him to train when he has upcoming surgery?

I see, sorry hadn't read all the posts and wasn't aware of the shift to surgery.

The only explanation for that is for whatever reason it hasn't healed as they would hope. My tip would be he has either done further damage by going too hard or they didn't get a good enough read from the initial x-ray and made an error in diagnosis which is common with scaphoids.

When you say trained was he doing contact work? He could certainly keep training with a guard on without risk but it would be very unusual if he was doing contact stuff. The only justification I could imagine for that is they said it's getting fixed anyway so if you can handle the pain go for it. But that would be odd to say the least.

 

[caesar]

I see, sorry hadn't read all the posts and wasn't aware of the shift to surgery.

The only explanation for that is for whatever reason it hasn't healed as they would hope. My tip would be he has either done further damage by going too hard or they didn't get a good enough read from the initial x-ray and made an error in diagnosis which is common with scaphoids.

When you say trained was he doing contact work? He could certainly keep training with a guard on without risk but it would be very unusual if he was doing contact stuff. The only justification I could imagine for that is they said it's getting fixed anyway so if you can handle the pain go for it. But that would be odd to say the least.

Yes guard was on and non contact, don't expect to see him there tomorrow though as hopefully he has had it done.

 

[The Big Richo]

Yes guard was on and non contact, don't expect to see him there tomorrow though as hopefully he has had it done.

It's a really hard one for the medical team, I feel for them because they will inevitably cop the why have we wasted time in going for surgery.

Assuming it was a scaphoid, it can be tricky to get a good look at them on a scan when they aren't displaced. If the break is closer to the thumb the blood flow is better and it is more likely to heal so if you are more towards the middle it becomes an each way decision.

Obviously you don't just slice people open lightly, so with this one they will have seen no displacement, the fracture was reasonably high and figured the best course of action was a cast and probably some bone stimulation.

Most times that would work, in this instance they have obviously had a look and see that healing is not following the course they'd hope or the fracture has developed and they can now get a better look at it via scan, so surgery comes into play.

It's one of those hard situations where the best interests of the football club and the player are not aligned, which is always a nightmare for the staff.

 

[Dont Argue]

I did a wrist after the 2017 G.F and took ages to heal.
Did it again in 2019 and 2020

 

[tigerman]

I did a wrist after the 2017 G.F and took ages to heal.
Did it again in 2019 and 2020

I did both my wrists after the 17, 19 & 20 GF's.

 

[Dont Argue]

I did both my wrists after the 17, 19 & 20 GF's.

Stop bragging

 

[Redford]

I did both my wrists after the 17, 19 & 20 GF's.

How’s the eyesight ?

 

[TT33]

How’s the eyesight ?

He uses a Braille keyboard if that is any indication.

 

[shad]

How’s the eyesight ?

He thinks the umps are doing a good job.

 

[tigerman]

How’s the eyesight ?

I now wear glasses.

 

[Redford]

He thinks the umps are doing a good job.

Ah. Explains why a few others have the same problem.

 

[mrposhman]

It's a really hard one for the medical team, I feel for them because they will inevitably cop the why have we wasted time in going for surgery.

Assuming it was a scaphoid, it can be tricky to get a good look at them on a scan when they aren't displaced. If the break is closer to the thumb the blood flow is better and it is more likely to heal so if you are more towards the middle it becomes an each way decision.

Obviously you don't just slice people open lightly, so with this one they will have seen no displacement, the fracture was reasonably high and figured the best course of action was a cast and probably some bone stimulation.

Most times that would work, in this instance they have obviously had a look and see that healing is not following the course they'd hope or the fracture has developed and they can now get a better look at it via scan, so surgery comes into play.

It's one of those hard situations where the best interests of the football club and the player are not aligned, which is always a nightmare for the staff.

I had an ulna fracture about 6 years, technically a fracture but the crack through the bone was almost all the way through, there was only a small amount of bone still in contact. In hindsight it would have been better to have broken it. They didn't realise from the initial x-ray that I'd twisted as I'd done it, resulting in the bone twisting somewhat which explained why casting it was so painful, they couldn't physically supinate my wrist all the way, best I could do was get it straight up and even then they worried I was going to pass out as they fed me juice and lollies. Pain never went away as they said (despite some pretty strong painkillers) so they chose to cut the cast off and recast in a pronation position, though they didn't feed that back to the doctor. 6 weeks went by, I went back and the doctor looked at the x-ray and said they were 50/50 on whether to operate at the time, but decided to be cautious, but had they known the issues I had with casting they would have operated, and now it had fused back together all they could suggest was that I would get back to around 80% of what strength I had before.

Now I'm sure Tom got much better care than I did, but I guess they could have missed something on the 1st x-ray and are choosing to break the wrist and surgically repair it.

 

[Dont Argue]

I had an ulna fracture about 6 years, technically a fracture but the crack through the bone was almost all the way through, there was only a small amount of bone still in contact. In hindsight it would have been better to have broken it. They didn't realise from the initial x-ray that I'd twisted as I'd done it, resulting in the bone twisting somewhat which explained why casting it was so painful, they couldn't physically supinate my wrist all the way, best I could do was get it straight up and even then they worried I was going to pass out as they fed me juice and lollies. Pain never went away as they said (despite some pretty strong painkillers) so they chose to cut the cast off and recast in a pronation position, though they didn't feed that back to the doctor. 6 weeks went by, I went back and the doctor looked at the x-ray and said they were 50/50 on whether to operate at the time, but decided to be cautious, but had they known the issues I had with casting they would have operated, and now it had fused back together all they could suggest was that I would get back to around 80% of what strength I had before.

Now I'm sure Tom got much better care than I did, but I guess they could have missed something on the 1st x-ray and are choosing to break the wrist and surgically repair it.

Bloody hell.
After which G.F did you do yours in?

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

I was in a cast for the 17 GF. A few weeks earlier McBean had kicked 5 in the VFL.

 

[Jonesracing82]

There's a lot of options with wrists but I'm guessing the most likely here is a scaphoid fracture, which is a little bone below the base of your thumb that connects to the wrist joint.

If it is not displaced then a cast is all that is required, the big clue would be if he has been wearing a guard that protects the thumb and limits the movement of it. Scaphoids are often presented as being a 'sore thumb'.

If it was not displaced and the cast has been effective then he was likely meeting the surgeon yesterday to monitor the success of the treatment.

He'd be in a cast for 4-6, and 6-8 weeks before really getting going normally in terms of strength and full function, but it could be as long as 12 before you can play a contact sport. Sounds like he is getting close to the 6-8 range so you should see him start to gradually ramp up contact if all is going well.

Scaphoid can be a prick of an an injury to recover from, MotoGP guys struggle recovering from that injury.

 

[turk-d-tiger]

Wrist injury wont affect Tom from Running and building his tank more

He has plenty of time to get it right and come back in 4-6 weeks and get going

 

[caesar]

Thursday main training:

Good news :
Prestia
Cumberland
Graham
Dusty
Hopper

All looking good.

After his best game in VFL for club Dow leaves track 5 minutes into warm up.
Seth Cambell after 1 game back in rehab, groin must still be troubling him.

 

[King Kong]

Thursday main training:

Good news :
Prestia
Cumberland
Graham
Dusty
Hopper

All looking good.

After his best game in VFL for club Dow leaves track 5 minutes into warm up.
Seth Cambell after 1 game back in rehab, groin must still be troubling him.

Just add Campbell to the long list of mismanaged injuries at Tigerland.

 

[Tig3]

Just add Campbell to the very long list of mismanaged injuries at Tigerland.

Shame if that’s the case because he looked really good in his debut VFL game