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Tony Abbott's plebiscite
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80 million for a plebiscite im sure many would think its money well spent, considering the hundreds of millions they are wasting on queue jumping financial imports, and wasted foreign aid to countries that hate us.
Least it gves the Communist party and Comrade Juliar a nice little idea what sort of caning they are in for come the next election.
No mandate at least the Libs took the GST into the election and got a mandate.
This is without a doubt the worst Government this country has seen since the Whitlam disaster.
Talk about a handful of do gooder lefties and socialist marxists destroying the country, then again no one whinges louder or longer than the lefties.
Wilkie, Oakshott, Windsor and Bandt and the rest of the Greens (who are running the show) are the tinea on the scrotum of the Australian people.
Least it gves the Communist party and Comrade Juliar a nice little idea what sort of caning they are in for come the next election.
No mandate at least the Libs took the GST into the election and got a mandate.
This is without a doubt the worst Government this country has seen since the Whitlam disaster.
Talk about a handful of do gooder lefties and socialist marxists destroying the country, then again no one whinges louder or longer than the lefties.
Wilkie, Oakshott, Windsor and Bandt and the rest of the Greens (who are running the show) are the tinea on the scrotum of the Australian people.
Michael said:
No, because she supported an ETS. Greens however will support an ETS in the form proposed, so the carbon tax is a compromise.
It's basically copping a Corolla instead of a Laser, yes it's different, but the net outcome is the same (in this case a cost on carbon).
Personally I don't give a stuff what's introduced now, let's just make a decision and get on with it.
Our politics has become 30 second sound grabs & gimmicks. How sad - Sir Edmund Barton would be totally peeved at these shananigans.......
Two pointscraig said:
1. There is really no queue . If you think all these people are economic refugees you are wrong . maybe you should meet some of them . There is the odd one with money but they are rare.
2. Countries don't hate , people hate . You seem to have enough for all of us . If you are talking about Indonesia as an example I have been involved with Indonesia for more than 20 years and I have never met an Indonesian who hates Australia . You need to get out more .
I am involved with overseas aid and maybe you should join me in actually seeing what real need and true desperation is .
1. http://www.smh.com.au/national/better-life-main-reason-for-refugees-journey-20110503-1e6ui.html#ixzz1LMNvy45lSintiger said:
Ultimately you just have to ask, if you (alleged refugee) arrived in Indonesia, just what was the threat to your personal safety there that you had to risk your lives to come to Australia for?
2. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/thats-no-way-to-aid-indonesia/story-e6frg6zo-1225984624088
Not the most efficient way to spend money.
Not true, they had the right to vote in South Australia before Federation, in all other state elections since 1965 and in Federal elections since 1962.Tiger74 said:
craig said:
The Communist party, Socialist Marxists, lefties…….geez, that’s a blast from the past Craig - don’t hear that kind of language much these days.
Infact I can’t remember the last time I met a person who proclaimed to be a socialist except of course for that old round shouldered fella who sits in my local Coles every morning necking coke from a 125 ml bottle arguing unknown points to himself in some never ending debate.
Rise up ye workers (and out of workers)!
The point I made was in response to an inference that refugees are here primarily as queue jumping financial imports . Its just not factually correct to say that the majority of refugees are here for financial reasons . I assume you are alluding in mentioning Indonesia to boat people but of course the vast majority of refugees into Australia don't come in illegally by boat and don't come in via indonesia .Giardiasis said:
Why are you referring to an article about one piece of aid to indonesia ? Whether that particular aid is effective or not is not relevant to the point I was making . I am a great believer that a rich country like australia should be a generous provider of foriegn aid , just because it is the right thing to do . Of course the aid should be effective , that goes without saying.
Your point was missing Craig's point. He was solely referring to people that do come here via Indonesian people smugglers, i.e. Queue jumpers. He never made the claim that refugees are primarily queue jumpers, which really makes no logical sense anyway.Sintiger said:
Your point is that we should give a significant amount of aid money to other countries. My point is that it is an ineffectual way to improve the life of poor people. You say it is the right thing to do, but let's be honest, the money is largely wasted. Only real wealth generation can reduce poverty.
What do you think that effective aid does ? What a ridiculous comment . You are talking as if aid is just handouts . Its not and if you think it is you are not being well informed.Giardiasis said:
The major aid agences in the world today aim much of their aid at sustainable development . Building education , health , infrastructure . That's a fact .
