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Tigers and Frawley pass test of charachter
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It just amazes me that some people on this forum cant be happy with a much needed win, i bet all you negative people are real goers with all the positive posts you write. i really hope the tiges get back into form this year just to show you that its not the players that arent any good, Between most of you the whole team would be delisted, no coaching staff and probabley no richmond football club because according to some there is no one good enough in the universe to play or coach richmond. get positive tiger fans and stop posting rubbish. its as if you dont want them to be succesfull then you would have to find somthing else to whinge about.
schnipper said:
There is always another aspect to this.
A culture that believes we shouldn't criticise, and a culture that accepts defeat - will be defeated. It was a stirring moment when Michael Doohan once said "coming second means I am the first loser". You must be kidding saying we should get behind the team and support them when they are down. Do you take the same ethos into politics or business?? Many of these players and coaches earn $100,000 even $200,000+. They are accountable and it is not realistic to say they put their heart into every week - when they don't!
Every day you only need to open the paper to get some perspective on true effort, true grit - selfless behaviour.
Everyone talking about a hard fought victory when the reality is that 2 extra metres in Vandemburg's kick and we would be at suicide point.
Call a spade a spade. - and avoid patting an adult on the back when he loses.
I will be very happy if the Tiges season takes off. With Richo and Staf back this week (TBC) who knows. Then the only question should be "what happened in rounds 2-6"??????
Sir said:
Pretty pathetic response sir, especially your comment about supporting the club when it is down. If all Richmond supporters have had followed your advice for the past 20 years there would be no RFC by now. Fact is it's impossible for a club in the AFL in the current system to not have some time on the bottom.
It seems by your post that you are only interested in supporting the club when they win the majority of their matches. What support is that ?
Schnipper your post is spot on. Give the guys their dues when they deserve it.
Good win, but what test of character was passed?
All this crap with Channel 9 making the football game look like a soapie.
We played and beat Hawthorn good. Can we make it 2 in a row, or 3 or 4? Can we make the finals? Win a game in the finals? Thats what its all about and thats the real test of character for coach and players alike.
What good is it if we beat the Hawks and lose against Swans and Doggies what has been achieved? Sure celebrate the win but that win was nothing to hang your hat on. Until we winning consecutively instead of following up with consecutive losses we are all just fooling ourselves that we passed this so called test of character.
All this crap with Channel 9 making the football game look like a soapie.
We played and beat Hawthorn good. Can we make it 2 in a row, or 3 or 4? Can we make the finals? Win a game in the finals? Thats what its all about and thats the real test of character for coach and players alike.
What good is it if we beat the Hawks and lose against Swans and Doggies what has been achieved? Sure celebrate the win but that win was nothing to hang your hat on. Until we winning consecutively instead of following up with consecutive losses we are all just fooling ourselves that we passed this so called test of character.
btoz_01 said:
It is good to be able to watch a reply for a change.
It's good to be able to read the papers.
It's good to feel happy like I always do for the week after a win.
It's good to have a rest, even if it is temporary, from being easy targets for stirring whenever we leave the house.
It's good to have a tad less abuse on the message board.
It was bloody good to sing the song after the game.
Rosy why grab one line from a paragraph?
I watch replays even when we lose. Just call me a thrillseeker.
I also read the papers on the RFC whether its good or bad.
I always feel happy. I cant wait for RFC to win a game of football to make happy. Wake up and smile it aint all bad. Look at what else is happening in this world.
Dont worry about stirrers hold up head high look at them in the eye and show your RFC colours.
About the message board why fellow supporters bag each other is beyond me. We all support the same club people.
Yes our song is great. It's one of the best inspirational club songs. ;D ;D ;D
I watch replays even when we lose. Just call me a thrillseeker.
I also read the papers on the RFC whether its good or bad.
I always feel happy. I cant wait for RFC to win a game of football to make happy. Wake up and smile it aint all bad. Look at what else is happening in this world.
Dont worry about stirrers hold up head high look at them in the eye and show your RFC colours.
About the message board why fellow supporters bag each other is beyond me. We all support the same club people.
Yes our song is great. It's one of the best inspirational club songs. ;D ;D ;D
I copied the part of your post I felt like commenting on. I don't see the need to copy whole quotes like a lot of people tend to do. I s'pose I wanted to say that even if we don't win next week, or the one after or even don't win another game all year I enjoyed this one.
I'll worry about the other results as they happen.
BTW thanks for the inspirational pep talk. Maybe you can address the team before Sunday's game? ;D
I'll worry about the other results as they happen.
BTW thanks for the inspirational pep talk. Maybe you can address the team before Sunday's game? ;D
Sir said:
Fair enough Sir.
So, did the cellar dweller culture develop because the supporters accepted mediocrity, or because they were the standards accepted and adopted by the people within the Club itself?
Most of us like to think we could tell the coach/recruiters and everyone else at the Club how they could better run things. And even though we're supporters, it doesn’t stop anyone from having an opinion and how people choose to support the Club is up to them.
However, I’m only guessing here, but I would reckon that it would make life much easier for everyone at RFC to do their job if they had people willing to give them a go, instead of knocking and criticising every little thing they do. How much harder does life become for them because of this? Not only that, but how distracting and how much time and energy does it sap from people? I’m surprised some of them have enough enthusiasm or spirit left to want to be there.
It’s up to the Club and players to be professional enough to know what standards are required and acceptable, because, regardless of how vitriolic and demanding our supporters have been over the years, it hasn’t made a speck of difference, because we’re still as unsuccessful as we were before (for anyone who hasn’t noticed).
I’m sure if you ask any successful person they would acknowledge the people behind the scenes who made their life much easier.
Michael Doohan was so successful because he wouldn’t accept losing for himself and not because he had people who wouldn’t accept him coming second. If it didn’t mean enough to him, I suspect that no amount of criticism from anyone could have made that much difference.
And just maybe he surrounded himself with people who could support him in his ambitions and help him to become so good, instead of knocking his every move when things didn’t go according to plan.
His ambition and drive would have helped him overcome many hurdles and obstacles, but if he didn’t have people who could help him get the best out of himself, his time and energy could have been spread in many directions that would not have allowed him to be as focused and perhaps as successful as he was.
Our footy Club has a long way to go to get back to the top and kicking it when it’s down and generally putting the boots in isn’t going to help one bit. Never has, never will.
There are ways to get a message across and help the Club move forward without the need to attack it at every turn.
MC24 said:
On the first of the paragraphs above MC, can i suggest that he did surround himself with people who could support him in his ambitions, but isnt it also a possibtlity that his ambitions were to get where he most wanted to be..to the top of the tree and those people were also the right people to take him there? You cannot get very far just with the people who can support you, if these people are not the right people with the right mindset and the vital right skills.
on the last 2 paragraphs can i ask you this:
What do we do? You say dont kick them when their down, and I understand you in that bagging will not achieve a thing.
But i cannot come to the party when i see people calling for positive thinking.
How can you think positive when you see total negativity from those who you are trying to be positive about?
I cannot understand how you can get your message across if not by voicing your dissaproval.
I am not having a go here but I am interested in your thoughts on how you would get the message across to the club say..lets say after the Geelong game?
WOuld you do it by being silent?
How could you find one positive to talk about.
If you did then is that the talking point that 25000 members need to talk about?
How do you get the message across to the club if you are telling us that there are better ways?
