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Tigers and Frawley pass test of charachter

glorydaysareback

Nice to have our glory days back at the Tigers!
Apr 18, 2004
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Firstly before all those Danny Frawley haters reply to this post, may I point out that i too doubt Frawley has the necessary goods to be a top line coach. However as opposed to those who ridicule him and the RFC players I really hope he proves me wrong and can turnaround the Tigers this season. I will be forever grateful that he proved me to be a novice.

The reason i say this is because i couldn’t get out of my head today how this sport can eat up its, coaches, teams and clubs. Finally out Tigers will be out of the feeding frenzy of the media's glaze as we pass the baton onto Collingwood, Hawthorn and even Carlton after their 100 point demolition today.

Instead of Frawley it more than likely will be Peter Schwab and Hawthorn under the microscope. My mind went back to last year when the Hawks were in exactly the same position and managed to recover. By seasons end it seemed everybody was singing Schwab's praises and they entered this season a top four prediction.

I then thought of round 8 last year and the Tigers were flying with 6 wins from 8 matches. Out of curiosity I went back to the pages on PRE then and funnily enough many of those bagging Frawley, the Club and the team were quite positive then.

It's funny but in the AFL 8 teams will make finals and it's a certainty that 8 wont and obviously the bottom four will mostly have very ordinary seasons win/loss wise.

What got me on the weekend was the media, they had changed their target from Richmond to Hawthorn and all the same lines, questions and arguments being asked about us was then being asked about Hawthorn. The media are really pathetic at times. I think they simply aren't happy unless they can manage to get somebody's scalp.

Which brings me back to Frawley and the Tigers. They have had to endure what must have been unbearable pressure tension and hardship for the past four weeks but especially in the past week. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to go to ground and keep away from the public glare. Instead Frawley to his credit defender Tiger supporters right to voice their frustration, stuck up for his players, went onto talking footy when most others wouldn't have considered and got there act together to manage a tough hard fought win with a number of their better players out injured, dropped or out of form.

Wether by plan or by necessity he has also introduced some excitng kids Hyde, Roach, Hartigan, Weller, Schulz. Add to that the faith that he has shown in Krakouer is starting to pay off and his gamble on Tim Fleming is showing reward with him collecting 24 possession following his 20+ possessions last week. Maybe we will get his critics calling for his trading again.

Despite all this criticism and the supposed chaos surrounding him and the team he was able to get his boys together for a memorable win. It is only one win admittedly and he and the team has a long way to go to make up lost ground. However they all (and Frawley in particular) have just passed a huge test of character and deserve justifiable praise and recognition for this.

Maybe we (myself included) should give the whole group a chance to prove themselves before writing them off before the half way mark of the season.
 
Well said 'getbacktoglorydays' .

After watching Friday's game on TV, I felt sorry for Frawley's family and especially Danny himself. He's got more guts than any other coach since Tommy Hafey and he really has shown a lot of passion for the Tigers not only from himself but also his family as I noticed his wife singing the Tiger theme song after the game. If a coach's family didn't give a stuff about where he coached, then they would not have bothered barracking for the club. I think most supporters PRETEND to hate Frawley for the club's failure since 2001, but it really irks me as to why Danny can't use his brains in simply coaching the club by learning off other successful teams (eg Essendon
Brisbane and now St Kilda). Why can't his assistants be criticised also ? (especially the forward and midfield coaches)

And by the way, the media also sickens me when the TV camera always shows the losing coach first after a game is finished.
 
The upcoming road trips will well and truly put the final nails in Frawley's carreer.......not soon enough. All the guts and determination won't save him now. Hopefully the club don't get deluded again with one performance against a rabble and persist on the hunt for a proper coach. Frawley's and his family's behaviour at the end of the game was pure embarrassment for our once mighty club.
 
Agree with everything said, but the fact is in his fifth year as head coach we are struggling badly, with a list that has some major dificiencies.

I have always hoped that Danny could lead us to some sustained success, but have resigned myself to the fact that he just not upto the task required of him. This is a pity as he is hard working honest individual.

No matter what happens this year, we need to get a new coach....fact
 
Hear, here Harry. Their should be no time for sentiment in AFL football. What I saw on friday night, makes the RFC look like a cross between Neighbours and Home and Away.
By all means he can have his family's support, but dont shove it down our faces. Not interested!
 
Rampaging Richo said:
Agree with everything said, but the fact is in his fifth year as head coach we are struggling badly, with a list that has some major dificiencies.

No matter what happens this year, we need to get a new coach....fact

RR, you could say exactly the same about Mick Malthouse right now. In my view, Collingwood as as far away from winning a flag as we were in 2001. I don't doubt that Collingwood will re-emerge this season, but another premiership tilt looks out of the question, and Malthouse has had precisely the same time at the helm as Danny.

As I've said before, Danny is quite obviously not a Sheedy or Matthews but I don't think that he is the complete brain-dead dud that others like to characterise him as. I'd like nothing more than to see him coach us into the finals this season and present our administration with a problem: Do we sack the only coach who has taken us into two finals series in the past 23 years? Seems unlikely to happen given our current state, but it would be an interesting dilemma. ;D
 
Here here Diggler - their carry on the other night was like a group of old ladies winning a bingo contest.
 
gee whiz...relax enjoy the win..reality is there proberly wont be to many more this year,but i for one have enjoyed reading the papers and listening to talkback for a change..we know spud wont be there next year lets move on... ;)
 
Hey Diggler, you have lost any creditabilty you might have had. Why ? You watch Home and Away and Neighbours do you ? ha ::)
 
jackstar said:
Hey Diggler, you have lost any creditabilty you might have had. Why ? You watch  Home and Away and Neighbours do you ? ha ::)

Watches it, he's probably a senior scriptwriter for both shows.
 
diggler said:
Hear, here Harry. Their should be no time for sentiment in AFL football. What I saw on friday night, makes the RFC look like a cross between Neighbours and Home and Away.
By all means he can have his family's support, but dont shove it down our faces. Not interested!
I have to disagree with you here Diggler. As much as I believe Frawley doesn't have the goods, the pressure he has been under would be enough to make a lesser person crack. The fact that he and his wife showed some emotion after a breakthrough win is understandable and to me shows how much he really does care if the RFC win or not.
 
Gees, give Spud a break. Some of these negative comments about his family cheering him and the Tiges on last Friday. What the hell is wrong with that? Just get over it and stop nit picking. Let's just savour a great win, and look forward to knocking off the Swans next week.
 
DragaTheCro said:
Gees, give Spud a break. Some of these negative comments about his family cheering him and the Tiges on last Friday. What the hell is wrong with that? Just get over it and stop nit picking. Let's just savour a great win, and look forward to knocking off the Swans next week.
I dont think we have a problem with Spud's family cheering him on Draga, we do have a problem with the media shifting the attention of the footy world away from the problems that are the real ones. Why was did we not see Spud's family on the box for the last 5 weeks and all of a sudden we have a dedicated camera on them?

Like whats next?...a camera at the house showing eveyone getting ready to go to the footy?
 
when it comes to character and passing tests, what have the last 4 games been all about?

Did anyone ask the question as i did in the first quarter on Friday night?

Why tonight?, what is the difference between tonight and the last 4 weeks? did we not have our backs to the wall for at least 3 of those weeks?

It shows our lack of character, when they show a glimpse of what has been lacking.

Character is always there, not when we think we need to show it.
 
Harry said:
The upcoming road trips will well and truly put the final nails in Frawley's carreer.......not soon enough.  All the guts and determination won't save him now.  Hopefully the club don't get deluded again with one performance against a rabble and persist on the hunt for a proper coach.  Frawley's and his family's behaviour at the end of the game was pure embarrassment for our once mighty club.
Ive read somecrap on this thing since ive been on and never realy reply to it but mate that is the bigest load of crap i have read well done. ps if poeple showed as much support as spuds fam did on the night mabe things would be so bad
 
LMAOOOO - imagine Sheedy's mum sitting at an essendon game cheering his boy on and after the game she gave him hugs and kisses..

...I wonder if Christie Malthouse will drop her microphone and run to embrace her dad after the Pies break through for a win.

This is why we have become the laughing stock.

This is AFL..........not the little league!!
 
clown said:
Get over it :'( :'( :'( :'(

I agree. It's not the bloody clubs fault that channel 9 had the cameras on Frawleys friends and family. We know what the media are like. They see something and they do it to death. Who cares.
 
Harry said:
imagine Sheedy's mum sitting at an essendon game cheering his boy on
How long has Sheedy's mum been a man???? :eek: If this is the case I think I will withdraw my support of his as our next coach!
 
LMAOOO at Sheedy's mum suddenly becoming a man due to my post.