The Players' Association should have slammed Walker harder for his words
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The Players' Association should have slammed Walker harder for his words
This is the same AFLPA who said zip when Lynch’s character was being assassinated by the media in 2019/20. Gutless.
I think that's the whole point 22nd was making. The AFLPA reasonably calls for lengthy bans of a year or more on spectators who racially vilify players but goes soft on one of it's own when they do it.
The way I read it thats a pretty reasonable apology from Tex. Owns up to it and is contrite.
Pre-written? Sure. But we have heard plenty of mealy mouthed half apologies,example Aussie cricketers.
That the club said he is emotional from it is also a fair comment.
Not condoning what was said but a good apology can set the tone for improvement and positive change
Their scripted apology framed Walker’s action as a mistaken word choice.
It wasn’t a mistaken word choice. It was an intentionally racist communication where he accurately chose the right word to express what he wanted to say.
The outcome here is the AFL or Adelaide are protecting Walker by signalling to fans that he’s a victim of the word police.
In an era of fake outrage and Twitter word games, we’re seeing the leader of the Adelaide FC get cushioned by rising anti-PC sentiment after committing a legitimate social crime.
It wasn’t a mistaken word choice. It was an intentionally racist communication where he accurately chose the right word to express what he wanted to say.
The outcome here is the AFL or Adelaide are protecting Walker by signalling to fans that he’s a victim of the word police.
In an era of fake outrage and Twitter word games, we’re seeing the leader of the Adelaide FC get cushioned by rising anti-PC sentiment after committing a legitimate social crime.
Well said Dell.
A lot of people here having an opinion on what they don’t even know was said. Just guessing.
I certainly acknowledge that whatever was said was inappropriate.
But there is certainly a degree in that it was said, not AT the other player. But ABOUT the other player, who didn’t even know something was said.
To me, it’s the same as people having racist thoughts when they black fellas, man or woman, pissed and yelling abuse at people going by. The same people who would then call out others for being racists. Talk about being hypocrites.
Plenty on here are the same. I’m be willing to bet that there plenty on here that have thought or even said things in private, but are more than willing to call others out publicly.
Walker has apologise. Whether it was written or not, if it’s genuine, accept it. He has a long road to travel to win back his Indigenous teammates trust. If he can. They know the mettle of the man better than those who opinionated on social media.
How many of us all have never made a mistake, big or small in their lives? Or believe they never will in coming years?
Who amongst us have regretted what has come out of our mouth at times?
Me, I’ve made plenty. I hope I’ve learned from them. I’m sure I’ll stuff up somewhere a long the line in the future.
Unlike a lot of people, I’m not perfect. But I can look at myself in the mirror, without judging other people’s flaws or failures while not acknowledging my own
He ain’t perfect either. He’s never claimed to be. He’s human, he has flaws like all of us. Even though some must believe they’re perfect. (Like Sunday Christians who worship on Sundays and are pricks the other 6 days of the week)
A failure doesn’t define the man, or any man. It’s what you can do to rectify your flaws.
A lot of people don’t know him, yet can have an opinion of his character for ONE word misspoke.
Did any of you know he’s had Indigenous people living with him at times? Not that he was forced into it, but offered to. Do you know how many people he has helped or reached out in times of need? Not for media attention but because he really is a decent person.
He has admitted to his words. He has genuinely apologised. He has some hard ahead of him.
Let him.
Who are you to think you have the right to be judge, jury and executioner.
I wonder what the reaction would be if Trent Cotchin had said the same in a private conversation or admitted he had similar thoughts in the heat of the moment.
Just think about what all of us could do better, put your passionate responses to better use and actually make a contribution to bettering all people’s lives.
This is my opinion. If it doesn’t fit in with the group talk, so be it.
Just remember “people in glass houses”.
We can ALL be a better person. And help others be.
A seperate comment.
As for the likes of a former Indigenous Swans player having voiced his outrage, I suggest he look in the mirror and decide whether group sexual assault on a defenceless female and paying her off to silence her is of the same order.
It seems “the righteous” have different standards when it comes to judging others compared to their own behaviour
Hopefully we all learn. Indigenous and white, our future is intertwined.
Funnily enough it wasnt Trent Cotchin, and I really doubt it ever will be.
If it was Cotchin, or Dusty, or Jason Castagna I would be happy if they didnt play for Richmond again.
You dont use the word black as a derogatory term without intending it be derogatory, and if someone thinks describing someone as 'black' is derogatory then they clearly have some racist views.
I really can't see using "black" as an adjective can be interpreted as anything but a racist comment. Walker is not denying this.
It is not simple, but there is a choice here: do we hang Walker or do we try and work out why he made this comment (if, as claimed above, Walker has housed indigenous people, you wonder where in his background this comes from) and seek to work through any issues such that Walker learns. There is a lot of racism in this country and it impacts on us all.
I would be looking at what his indigenous team mates say, they would know him better than any of us and would know if this was out of character.
Remember when Goodes pointed out the racist comment from the girl in the crowd - he wanted the girl to learn about racism and why it is wrong, not to have her vilified.
DS
It is not simple, but there is a choice here: do we hang Walker or do we try and work out why he made this comment (if, as claimed above, Walker has housed indigenous people, you wonder where in his background this comes from) and seek to work through any issues such that Walker learns. There is a lot of racism in this country and it impacts on us all.
I would be looking at what his indigenous team mates say, they would know him better than any of us and would know if this was out of character.
Remember when Goodes pointed out the racist comment from the girl in the crowd - he wanted the girl to learn about racism and why it is wrong, not to have her vilified.
DS
Do you think he meant the word 'black' as a compliment? Or just to make sure it was clear which *smile* he was talking about?
Don't buy this at all Willo.
This is not about righteous indignation or people in glass houses. Walker is a team leader who has been a central part of the playing group for 10 plus years. He has worked within this group for a common objective. He knows them all and has chosen to use racist language against a fellow player on an opposing team. That behaviour was called out by persons who are part of his same family.
i am part of such a family myself and I find both the Adelaide and the AFL solution to be offensive.
If it was a supporter using that language, the book would have been thrown. Banned for years, if not life. He got off lightly.
think I get your view but why would "white privilege" differentiate between white players and white spectators? (presuming that all spectators accused of racist comment are indeed "white")
I think in this case for the AFLPA its more do as we say not as we do ... human nature to protect / defend those closest to you than some stranger. They are after all a labour union, and their first obligation is to protect the income of their members. (eg the Police Union will defend some pretty reprehensible acts by a member and if proven they will fight for the minimum punishment)
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Pretty *smile* poor response mate. It was pretty easy to find out what was said. But I guess so long as he was only saying the guy was a black c**t about him, and not too him, it was OK?
This isn't just a freak accident and a slip of the tongue. AFL players get training on indigenous issues etc every year. He stood as a key member of a club that was supporting Eddie Betts when he was targeted by racists. This is something that you either accept as OK or you don't. It's never OK to call someone something racist, so long as the person doesn't hear it. And it's a lot different to saying, gee I shouldn't have called John a *smile*, that was poor form.
Whilst my wife isn't indigenous, she is part African, she has been subjected to racist language and behaviour before. If you could only appreciate how horrible it was to see the after effects of those actions, you'd be a he'll of a lot more contrite than Tex appeared to be.
As for Tex's penalty. 25 ish years ago, Peter Everitt got 4 weeks and $20k fine for a racist comment.
We've come a long way it seems.
Remember when he (the club?) booked a plane seat next to himself for the cup to sit in on the flight back to Adelaide after the 2017 GF ... prior to the game being played.
All act. How about sitting next to the player and looking him in the eye when apologizing.
I can accept naive kids making comments like this but not mature adults.
I can accept naive kids making comments like this but not mature adults.
agree. One of the more sincere apologies from dumb bozo red necks I can recall.
I would have liked to have heard the black fella go
'im sick this *smile*. we deal with it every *smile* day. we've heard shitloads of apologies and 'ill be betters' and 'im gonna educate myself' and 'I wasn't aware'. 240 years is long e - *smile* -nuff, to work it out and show us some *smile* respect. respect is all we *smile* want'
but I get why he didnt.
good on him for accepting the apology.
He’s out the door. Certain people on the board didn’t want him a few months back when he complain about Matty Nicks. Said he wasn’t up to it as a coach and the players in the leadership group wanted him gone and he lost the players.
Turned out most of it was BS.
Been rocking the boat too much and causing some internal fighting.
Explains why the club came out and made this public and reported matter to the AFL.
Turned out most of it was BS.
Been rocking the boat too much and causing some internal fighting.
Explains why the club came out and made this public and reported matter to the AFL.
