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Talkin’ Tactics 2022
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No. Dunstan butchers it as you said.
The best teams inside mids don't butcher it.
We need to recruit good disposers of the ball.
Transitional midfielders.
Dunstan is delisted for a reason.
pace and clean hands needed in the midfield as well as strong bodies
Cotch & Graham are our strong bodies
Dusty , Prestia , Lambert , Bolton and Edwards have been our clean hands and pace thru the midfield
we do need depth to cover injury and in the not too distant future replace some of those guys
Stack will a full preseason could run thru the middle
RCD is promising to reach that level
The like Dow as a prospect but he is still a bit skinny
so does it emphasise we need to draft a good one and trade in a ready made one ?
Cotch & Graham are our strong bodies
Dusty , Prestia , Lambert , Bolton and Edwards have been our clean hands and pace thru the midfield
we do need depth to cover injury and in the not too distant future replace some of those guys
Stack will a full preseason could run thru the middle
RCD is promising to reach that level
The like Dow as a prospect but he is still a bit skinny
so does it emphasise we need to draft a good one and trade in a ready made one ?
We gotta get past Melbourne, you say?
Some of football's greatest and most learned luminaries believe that defence wins flags. In that spirit, let us examine the all-important defensive match-ups of a hypothetical grand final based on current lists October 14 2021:
Neal-Bullen >>> Broad (seriously, Broad could win a Norm Smith on this bloke)
McDonald >>> Balta (Noah has Tom covered)
Sparrow >>> Stack (My money's on the Stackman)
Fritsch >>> Grimes (Bayley is mince meat.)
Brown >>> Tarrant (Owned and beaten like a dog by Tarrant. There is no question here.)
Spargo >>> Rioli (Run off him, Daniel, fly, fly fly)
Petracca >>> Vlastuin (Flossy to run intercept until Trac drifts into F50. From there it is a net loss to Melbourne)
It is self-evident from my extensive analysis that the only reason Melbourne jagged this year's flag is that Footscray had one of the worst backlines September has ever seen.
The smart money is Richmond in 2022. Keep it quiet yeah?
Some of football's greatest and most learned luminaries believe that defence wins flags. In that spirit, let us examine the all-important defensive match-ups of a hypothetical grand final based on current lists October 14 2021:
Neal-Bullen >>> Broad (seriously, Broad could win a Norm Smith on this bloke)
McDonald >>> Balta (Noah has Tom covered)
Sparrow >>> Stack (My money's on the Stackman)
Fritsch >>> Grimes (Bayley is mince meat.)
Brown >>> Tarrant (Owned and beaten like a dog by Tarrant. There is no question here.)
Spargo >>> Rioli (Run off him, Daniel, fly, fly fly)
Petracca >>> Vlastuin (Flossy to run intercept until Trac drifts into F50. From there it is a net loss to Melbourne)
It is self-evident from my extensive analysis that the only reason Melbourne jagged this year's flag is that Footscray had one of the worst backlines September has ever seen.
The smart money is Richmond in 2022. Keep it quiet yeah?
1. I think our 15 metre chip kick into the deep defensive pocket and then the down the line kick is past used by date. A more offensive defensive line.
2. We need to develop a proper strategy to hit our forwards on the chest inside 50. Ball inside 50, ball outside 50 doesn't work. Is forward midget chaos theory still a thing?
2. We need to develop a proper strategy to hit our forwards on the chest inside 50. Ball inside 50, ball outside 50 doesn't work. Is forward midget chaos theory still a thing?
Looking at our recent draft haul our tactics are clear. Speed of foot, speed of ball and elite ball use.
All players taken have this in spades. We are doubling down on ball movement at speed. Run and carry. Break the lines.
Speed kills. Good times.
All players taken have this in spades. We are doubling down on ball movement at speed. Run and carry. Break the lines.
Speed kills. Good times.
Was looking at the profiles of all the players, and all of them were rated as above average or better for ball use.
I think we've learned from the stand rule, we're going to start moving away from the Castagna and possibly even Flappers
type of player. We want to be fast, we want to be clean. Exciting.
I think we've learned from the stand rule, we're going to start moving away from the Castagna and possibly even Flappers
type of player. We want to be fast, we want to be clean. Exciting.
I still expect the likes of Flappers to play a key role. Hardwick loves defending the corridor and Flappers does this perfectly. Can Hugo step up and fill the other wing but on a more attacking front?
Make use of Tommy as a lead up, rather than a spoiler for the crumb. That's been the Jack style as the No.1 forward, now it's Tommy time, get him lead up to elite kicks. Just hope he ready to put his kicking boots on!
So here’s the thing.
You ain’t stopping teams on transition between the arcs in 2022.
The stand rule means teams can move the ball far too fluently for that. They’ve been training it for two years now.
Ping pong footy is here to stay.
What does that mean for the heavy forward press? Probably too risky.
What does that mean for a defensive matrix between the arcs? Too easy to slice through.
What does that mean for numbers around stoppage? Some teams will deploy this way, get the leather moving from the coal face. We won’t be.
Half back is where you can still reliably intercept the pill and explode very quickly.
Who did we recruit again? An interceptor.
What interests me about our apparent plans so far is an abandonment of forward containment. Balta up forward means many, many things. A pivotal move.
For starters, Lynch and Jack get to lead like under 12 forwards. No small thing for two of the best exponents of this art in the league.
Second, it means we will routinely send one of Nankervis and Soldo down back for cover.
Tarrant, Grimes, Vlastuin, Broad, Miller, Gibcus, (Soldo), (Nankervis).
Aerial men. All are critical. Gibcus more than folks may think.
Along with two of the hardest running defensive wingmen in the game in KMac and Pickett.
Our midfield is there to man up on transition when we don’t have the ball and get involved in passing triangles when we do.
Gone are the days of the long DTL. Teague won’t cop that. Modern footy will slaughter you if you serve it up too often.
We will pull the trigger on chaos ball when it’s loose but we will pass the ball by foot when it’s under control.
2022 is about aerial power in F50. Teams will flood back so you will need to be able to:
1) separate oppo interceptors
2) play 3 talls who can pluck
Finally, hard running tacklers like Castagna and Aarts to round things out. Trapping the ball is a bonus, no longer an expectation.
So manage your expectation around F50 leakage. All sides will leak more than a boozy Clive Palmer *smile*.
In short, using three marking lanes effectively in F50 will determine how far teams can go.
Lynch, Riewoldt, Balta, (Soldo), (Nankervis).
How do we stack up?
Will be fascinating to watch.
You ain’t stopping teams on transition between the arcs in 2022.
The stand rule means teams can move the ball far too fluently for that. They’ve been training it for two years now.
Ping pong footy is here to stay.
What does that mean for the heavy forward press? Probably too risky.
What does that mean for a defensive matrix between the arcs? Too easy to slice through.
What does that mean for numbers around stoppage? Some teams will deploy this way, get the leather moving from the coal face. We won’t be.
Half back is where you can still reliably intercept the pill and explode very quickly.
Who did we recruit again? An interceptor.
What interests me about our apparent plans so far is an abandonment of forward containment. Balta up forward means many, many things. A pivotal move.
For starters, Lynch and Jack get to lead like under 12 forwards. No small thing for two of the best exponents of this art in the league.
Second, it means we will routinely send one of Nankervis and Soldo down back for cover.
Tarrant, Grimes, Vlastuin, Broad, Miller, Gibcus, (Soldo), (Nankervis).
Aerial men. All are critical. Gibcus more than folks may think.
Along with two of the hardest running defensive wingmen in the game in KMac and Pickett.
Our midfield is there to man up on transition when we don’t have the ball and get involved in passing triangles when we do.
Gone are the days of the long DTL. Teague won’t cop that. Modern footy will slaughter you if you serve it up too often.
We will pull the trigger on chaos ball when it’s loose but we will pass the ball by foot when it’s under control.
2022 is about aerial power in F50. Teams will flood back so you will need to be able to:
1) separate oppo interceptors
2) play 3 talls who can pluck
Finally, hard running tacklers like Castagna and Aarts to round things out. Trapping the ball is a bonus, no longer an expectation.
So manage your expectation around F50 leakage. All sides will leak more than a boozy Clive Palmer *smile*.
In short, using three marking lanes effectively in F50 will determine how far teams can go.
Lynch, Riewoldt, Balta, (Soldo), (Nankervis).
How do we stack up?
Will be fascinating to watch.
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Interesting take. I reckon Dimma would be damned frustrated if we can't hold the ball inside 50, but if that is the way the game goes then we have to adjust.
You are likely correct but I haven't seen enough really to conclude this, I do hope we can at least pressure any exits from our forward 50, but that is not so easy with the absurd stand rule. What a way to wreck the game. The AFL might have dreams of high scoring shoot-outs with the changes they make, but really, if you remove the ability to keep the ball inside 50, and you give the team exiting their back line an easy path across the middle (widest part of the ground, most space) with the stand rule, then I wonder what they are expecting. Because the coaches will respond with one thing and one thing only - clog up the last line of defence. Sounds like an exciting game they are creating
Of course, it could be just the excuse they are looking for to introduce limits to the number of players in each part of the ground, which really would mean the end of Australian Rules Football as we have known it.Hopefully if this is the case we can capitalise on having 3 tall forwards. If this is the analysis then Balta forward is essential, along with ruck rotations or the like.
DS
Great post, Carts. really enjoyed reading your insights/analysis ... far more detailed and considered than I could ever envisage doing.
I guess I am still a little confused as to how footy is played nowadays, so I shall look forward to watching the Tigers play and see how sorts of structures and game plans and playing styles will eventuate.
In the end, the complexities and match matrixes are often beyond my comprehension.
just as long as it all means that the Tigers are standing on THAT dais with the silverware held aloft.
I guess I am still a little confused as to how footy is played nowadays, so I shall look forward to watching the Tigers play and see how sorts of structures and game plans and playing styles will eventuate.
In the end, the complexities and match matrixes are often beyond my comprehension.
just as long as it all means that the Tigers are standing on THAT dais with the silverware held aloft.
My concern is whether we can honour those leads. Having the likes of Pickett, Castagna and KMac trying to deliver the ball with precision into our forward line, rather than bombing away, is where we could fall down. It didn't matter when our forward line was small and we brought so much pressure, but with 3 talls I'm worried that the ball is going to come back very quickly.
How is it 17 v 17 when the player on the mark cannot move but the player who has the ball . . . well, they have the bloody ball!
You can hide behind this notion that the only criticism of the stand rule is somehow Richmond supporters unhappy we didn't make the 8, but everyone hates it.
Plus, by giving a clear advantage to the team with the ball to move it quickly down the ground in more space, the obvious counter is to clog up their forward line, creating congestion, which is precisely what the AFL say they want to avoid.
It may well be the case that the stand rule did not make much difference to the clogging up of forward lines and subsequent congestion, but it certainly did not make the situation any better, if anything, it is worse.
DS
You can hide behind this notion that the only criticism of the stand rule is somehow Richmond supporters unhappy we didn't make the 8, but everyone hates it.
Plus, by giving a clear advantage to the team with the ball to move it quickly down the ground in more space, the obvious counter is to clog up their forward line, creating congestion, which is precisely what the AFL say they want to avoid.
It may well be the case that the stand rule did not make much difference to the clogging up of forward lines and subsequent congestion, but it certainly did not make the situation any better, if anything, it is worse.
DS
