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Talkin' Tactics 2015
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Go back to the tactic we had about four years ago. All forward entries are deep right to the pocket to try to get it over the line for a boundary throw in or a stoppage where we can scratch some goals or lock the ball in our forward line. It would negate Melbourne trying to slingshot it out. Ugly but actually effective.
That's in danger of playing right into their hands. Better to hit up good kicks like Griff and Lennon on the 50 to draw out the loose men. Kick a few from 50 and space opens up inside the arc. Bomb it long and they will flood back and clog space all night.Tiger Pops said:
Geez look at Spook's post above. Us mugs knew what was gonna happen.
It's so pathetically predictable.
Dimma is determined to stick with a press that restricts our avenues to goal and makes it so simple for the opp to score.
How often does Riewoldt mark on the boundary?
How often does the opp get shots from 30m out dead in front?
I've got a revolutionary idea - sag back. Stack the midfield, put riewoldt and Lloyd deep and clear the rest of F50.
Allow the opp to rebound from 50.
Defend D50 like other teams are currently doing to us.
It's so pathetically predictable.
Dimma is determined to stick with a press that restricts our avenues to goal and makes it so simple for the opp to score.
How often does Riewoldt mark on the boundary?
How often does the opp get shots from 30m out dead in front?
I've got a revolutionary idea - sag back. Stack the midfield, put riewoldt and Lloyd deep and clear the rest of F50.
Allow the opp to rebound from 50.
Defend D50 like other teams are currently doing to us.
I50s(diff) Goals(diff)
R1: 54(+8 ) 15(+4)
R2: 54(+6 ) 9(-3)
R3: 57(+11 ) 21(13).
R4: 57(+14) 6(-6)
R1: 54(+8 ) 15(+4)
R2: 54(+6 ) 9(-3)
R3: 57(+11 ) 21(13).
R4: 57(+14) 6(-6)
DirtyDogTiger said:
Plenty of inside 50s.
We now need to improve the delivery to the forwards, and restrict the opposition from bringing it back out.
DirtyDogTiger said:
Just shows how pitiful our forward line structure really is. It is an absolute joke. Just bomb it near the boundary line and force a stoppage. Dimma prefers boundary throw ins to goals. Insanity. A 5 year old could tell you the closer to the boundary line the harder the shot at goal. Dimma doesn't get it though :
, continues to persist with the most insane forward line plan ever seen in the AFL. Particularly when you have a forward line that applies ZERO pressure and the opposition just waltz out of there time and time again and flip it into a very open forward line and kick goals on the break with consumate ease.
Happens every week. Nothing ever changes. If I didn't see it I wouldn't believe that a so called professional football club could be so inadequate.
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Yep this should be last option not first option.Ridley said:Just shows how pitiful our forward line structure really is. It is an absolute joke. Just bomb it near the boundary line and force a stoppage. Dimma prefers boundary throw ins to goals. Insanity. A 5 year old could tell you the closer to the boundary line the harder the shot at goal. Dimma doesn't get it though :
Particularly when you have a forward line that applies ZERO pressure and the opposition just waltz out of there time and time again and flip it into a very open forward line and kick goals on the break with consumate ease.
Happens every week. Nothing ever changes. If I didn't see it I wouldn't believe that a so called professional football club could be so inadequate.
Ridley said:
maybe we should play someone in the forward line who's job isnt to get the ball, or kick goals, but instead someone who can apply pressure and lock the ball in. whadda ya think?
Righto PREnders, I give you a question:
How many other teams in the AFL base their defense on possession?
Two.
Hawthorn and Brisbane.
Melbourne and Sydney? No. Their defence is based on stoppages.
Geelong, Collingwood and Essendon? No. They counter at CHB and link through the corridor. They also force teams wide, happy to concede shallow inside 50s.
North Melbourne and Port Adelaide? No. They base their defence on scoreboard pressure.
So what's the thing about this possession game? Hawthorn have built a dynasty on the back of it.
So why don't other teams do it?
Because it's too hard. If your skills are slightly off, or your ball movement not quite quick enough, forward clog is the result.
We all know how that plays out. A series of close wins / losses. Never putting teams away, never really getting smashed from pillar to post.
Teams like Essendon and Collingwood have smartly realized they ain't as good as Hawthorn. So they use the corridor and set up to expect the ball coming back the other way. Cos that's footy.
We set up as if we're gonna play the entire game in our forward 50.
So. Dimma needs to be congratulated.
He either has no imagination at all or has balls of solid steel, staking his career on the Clarkson playbook.
In the end it won't really matter eh?
How many other teams in the AFL base their defense on possession?
Two.
Hawthorn and Brisbane.
Melbourne and Sydney? No. Their defence is based on stoppages.
Geelong, Collingwood and Essendon? No. They counter at CHB and link through the corridor. They also force teams wide, happy to concede shallow inside 50s.
North Melbourne and Port Adelaide? No. They base their defence on scoreboard pressure.
So what's the thing about this possession game? Hawthorn have built a dynasty on the back of it.
So why don't other teams do it?
Because it's too hard. If your skills are slightly off, or your ball movement not quite quick enough, forward clog is the result.
We all know how that plays out. A series of close wins / losses. Never putting teams away, never really getting smashed from pillar to post.
Teams like Essendon and Collingwood have smartly realized they ain't as good as Hawthorn. So they use the corridor and set up to expect the ball coming back the other way. Cos that's footy.
We set up as if we're gonna play the entire game in our forward 50.
So. Dimma needs to be congratulated.
He either has no imagination at all or has balls of solid steel, staking his career on the Clarkson playbook.
In the end it won't really matter eh?
Totally agree with you - he coaches not to lose. Our close losses flatter us, I've been to all Melbourne games this year, and we have never looked like beating Doggies, demons and cats despite the closeness of the scores.
I just found this old post looking for something else.
Am i responsible for the entire shift in our game plan 2 years later?
There were a couple of other blokes outlined a theory of evolution at the same time charles Darwin did,
They just lacked a decent publicist.
I think thats whats happened to you brodders.
Well done! You pre-empted a quantum shift in footy.
