Ima watch some Ruggers...I don't even know all the rules, but I love the Aussies and I love Loti Toquiri and Phil Waugh.
Ruggers!
Ruggers!
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TigerGoneNorth said:
No one has ever been able to explain his overwhelming self opinion and arrogance, which was demonstrated yet again after the Lions were monstered again by the Kiwis. And it wasn't even their primary side given who was missing.
He was out coached, out managed and out trained, and his team were out played (three times) in just about every facet of the game by a far superior All Black unit. But he is unable to acknowledge that anyone may have done something better than him.
I am thrilled to bits that he (and the Lions) lost, but it is particularly sweet that they were completely thrashed
;D !!!Just got home from the Wallaby v Springbok match up here and it was a fantastic win by the boys :clap :clap !!!
The Springboks were more than a little disappointing, especially in the first half and it wouldn't surprise me if a couple of them would be up in front of the SANZA judiciary during the week given allegations of eye gauging and some very sloppy head high tackles. But SANZA is more of a crap shoot than the AFL so who knows!!!
The Wallabies played brilliantly, particularly in defence, which they were in for the majority of the second half, but they still didn't let the Boks get over the line at all. And yet when they attacked they looked dangerous and scored five tries in what was an ordinary first half (a lot of mistakes from the tourists) and a tough second half.
Steve Larkham (who apparently can't kick under pressure, according to the Bok coach) was absolutely magnificant. He played like the ball was on a string, as he placed it in behind their defensive line turning the Sprinboks inside out on a number of occassions. He also scored a try by weaving his way around two or three defenders, he was great.
Their big (re massive) forwards were shot to hell by the end of the first half because we never kicked for touch which meant they were always in play and could never take a breather, clever coaching. And they never really dominated the scrums and there wer few line outs on our throw so they were not a particularly big factor, so to speak.
Matt Rogers kicking game was a great improvement and the try he scored was attacking rugby being played at its best as he ran onto a kick from Larkham and he a Turinui combined really well until he went off injured. I was also impressed with Morgans replacement in Drew Mitchell who eared his first cap after being a highlight in QLD's rather dark year.
There were a few too many penalties awarded to the South Africans in the second half because of basic scrummaging and ruck and maul errors, but even with all the possession they still could not get over the line and that is a massive boost for Wallaby confidence.
Over all a great night out with a great win and a much better performance than in previous weeks, hopefully we can win the Mandela Trophy when we beat them again, in Johannesburg in a couple of weeks.
The Springboks were more than a little disappointing, especially in the first half and it wouldn't surprise me if a couple of them would be up in front of the SANZA judiciary during the week given allegations of eye gauging and some very sloppy head high tackles. But SANZA is more of a crap shoot than the AFL so who knows!!!
The Wallabies played brilliantly, particularly in defence, which they were in for the majority of the second half, but they still didn't let the Boks get over the line at all. And yet when they attacked they looked dangerous and scored five tries in what was an ordinary first half (a lot of mistakes from the tourists) and a tough second half.
Steve Larkham (who apparently can't kick under pressure, according to the Bok coach) was absolutely magnificant. He played like the ball was on a string, as he placed it in behind their defensive line turning the Sprinboks inside out on a number of occassions. He also scored a try by weaving his way around two or three defenders, he was great.
Their big (re massive) forwards were shot to hell by the end of the first half because we never kicked for touch which meant they were always in play and could never take a breather, clever coaching. And they never really dominated the scrums and there wer few line outs on our throw so they were not a particularly big factor, so to speak.
Matt Rogers kicking game was a great improvement and the try he scored was attacking rugby being played at its best as he ran onto a kick from Larkham and he a Turinui combined really well until he went off injured. I was also impressed with Morgans replacement in Drew Mitchell who eared his first cap after being a highlight in QLD's rather dark year.
There were a few too many penalties awarded to the South Africans in the second half because of basic scrummaging and ruck and maul errors, but even with all the possession they still could not get over the line and that is a massive boost for Wallaby confidence.
Over all a great night out with a great win and a much better performance than in previous weeks, hopefully we can win the Mandela Trophy when we beat them again, in Johannesburg in a couple of weeks.
Believe I'm right in saying Ian McGeechan was coach when the Lions won in South Africa in 1997.
After all the allegations of tour disharmony under Graham Henry in 2001 and Clive this time, maybe there's a case for a coach like McGeechan -- inclusive, personable and with tactical nous, even if he never had the cattle on the ground for Scotland to fully show it.
After all the allegations of tour disharmony under Graham Henry in 2001 and Clive this time, maybe there's a case for a coach like McGeechan -- inclusive, personable and with tactical nous, even if he never had the cattle on the ground for Scotland to fully show it.
Ready said:
Yes you're right.
i watched a docco on that tour a few weeks ago. It looked worlds away from the farce tour that Sir Clive Woodhead has run.
There was another great documentary about the 2001 tour, clocking in at about three hours though. Showed how the tour unravelled through injury and personality clashes as time went on.
Ready said:
McGeechan was actually an assistant coach on this tour.
But given how he was one of 29 support staff (& 45 players on the list), apparently including chefs, lawyers, a PR guy and someone whose sole job it was to improve the hand-eye co-ordination of the players, maybe his influence was lessened, unfortunately.
This Lions team was supposed to be the best backed, coached, and prepared team ever in the history of the concept.
But Wooward built the team in the same fashion he built his World Cup winning side of 2003 and he simply did not have the right cattle to do so and he didn't or wouldn't re-adjust according to the (excellent) bodies he did have.
This was demonstrated particularly in the defence, which seemed to always have fatal flaws, given that the All Blacks scored a record 107 points (12 tries) in the three tests while the Lions only managed to score only 40 points (3 tries).
There have been plenty of rumours regarding player splits, that would probably happen on most tours of any length, but a lot of these were over nationality especially with Gavin Henson not getting selected (when he should have) for the first test and the team being way to English-heavy which leads to comments about Woodwards bias towards his old firm.
I have also seen the 2001 Lions Tour of Australia documentary and it makes fascinating viewing but I think this one (if a doco is released) will top that completely given the enormity of the tour and subsequent massive All Black victory, the controversy over the opening test regarding Brian O'Driscolls injury and the absurdity of some of the coaches public comments.
I'm with you TGN, I can't wait for the doco on this tour
;D !!!
I'll have to check Your Majesty but it is quite likely that I was an Assistant Coach on the tour too! Everyone else seems to have been there!
FROM DAILY TELEGRAPH
Rugby Union
Attack and destroy
By PETER JENKINS
July 12, 2005
THE Wallabies have embarked on a record-breaking rampage and are on target to become the most prolific try-scorers in Australian Test history.
After just four internationals this season since embracing a dynamic new style of play, the Wallabies have racked up a raft of milestones.
Their 12 tries against Samoa was a record for Australia against the islanders while 11 tries against Italy, six against France and five against South Africa equalled the best ever Wallaby returns against each country.
The current tally of 34 tries – with another five Tests to follow this winter – has already stamped them as the most dangerous Australian side of the professional era.
No other Wallaby team since the code went pay-for-play in 1996 has scored as many tries while playing a seven or eight match program of home Tests and the Tri-Nations series.
The previous record was 29 in 1998 and again last year. On both occasions, the Wallabies had an eight-Test schedule.
But one landmark remains to be claimed. The 2003 Wallabies, who scored 36 tries while demolishing Romania and Namibia at the last World Cup, hold the overall season record with 64 from 14 games.
The current side has another nine Tests – three against South Africa, two against New Zealand and one each against France, Ireland, Wales and England – to close the deficit of 30 tries.
"I think the number we've scored this season is reflective of how we want to play the game," Wallabies coach Eddie Jones told The Daily Telegraph last night.
"We're not there at the moment, but this is the direction we want to head moving forward to the 2007 World Cup in France.
"Over the last few years, defence has been the predominant feature in the game. We've made a deliberate attempt to try and change that. There is an element of risk to it, but if you're going to beat good defences that's what you have to do."
There have been significant snapshots of the new expansive approach during the past month.
Second-rower Nathan Sharpe has taken to offloading in tackles while No. 8 David Lyons has been transformed from battering ram to a roaming runner, attacking wide and in close and using angles to maximise impact.
Jones has attempted to arm his side with a range of attacking options, using both backs and forwards, and to also have the ability to strike early from set pieces.
"We're slowly evolving and the key to it is not playing in any one particular way," said Jones.
Rugby Union
Attack and destroy
By PETER JENKINS
July 12, 2005
THE Wallabies have embarked on a record-breaking rampage and are on target to become the most prolific try-scorers in Australian Test history.
After just four internationals this season since embracing a dynamic new style of play, the Wallabies have racked up a raft of milestones.
Their 12 tries against Samoa was a record for Australia against the islanders while 11 tries against Italy, six against France and five against South Africa equalled the best ever Wallaby returns against each country.
The current tally of 34 tries – with another five Tests to follow this winter – has already stamped them as the most dangerous Australian side of the professional era.
No other Wallaby team since the code went pay-for-play in 1996 has scored as many tries while playing a seven or eight match program of home Tests and the Tri-Nations series.
The previous record was 29 in 1998 and again last year. On both occasions, the Wallabies had an eight-Test schedule.
But one landmark remains to be claimed. The 2003 Wallabies, who scored 36 tries while demolishing Romania and Namibia at the last World Cup, hold the overall season record with 64 from 14 games.
The current side has another nine Tests – three against South Africa, two against New Zealand and one each against France, Ireland, Wales and England – to close the deficit of 30 tries.
"I think the number we've scored this season is reflective of how we want to play the game," Wallabies coach Eddie Jones told The Daily Telegraph last night.
"We're not there at the moment, but this is the direction we want to head moving forward to the 2007 World Cup in France.
"Over the last few years, defence has been the predominant feature in the game. We've made a deliberate attempt to try and change that. There is an element of risk to it, but if you're going to beat good defences that's what you have to do."
There have been significant snapshots of the new expansive approach during the past month.
Second-rower Nathan Sharpe has taken to offloading in tackles while No. 8 David Lyons has been transformed from battering ram to a roaming runner, attacking wide and in close and using angles to maximise impact.
Jones has attempted to arm his side with a range of attacking options, using both backs and forwards, and to also have the ability to strike early from set pieces.
"We're slowly evolving and the key to it is not playing in any one particular way," said Jones.
Now the tour is over there have been several having a real rip at him. He doesn't seem to have too many friends!
Graham Henry has finally flipped out and refuted some of Clive Woodwards' insanity following the Lions test debacle.
Woodward is the prince of media spin and this time was no different. Last time it was in regards to sending off Simon Jones, this time he says that the All Blacks shouldn't be regarded as the best in the world because they have not won the World Cup recently.
While this is absolutely true, I continue to find it astonishing that a man who has had his teams completely thrashed five times in a row (England twice last year and the Lions this year) has the audacity to comment on the winning teams short comings.
He is on a completely different wave length to reality.
Interesting article - http://xtramsn.co.nz/rugby/0,,12416-4557186,00.html?GXHC_GX_jst=8258c07950ea6164
Woodward is the prince of media spin and this time was no different. Last time it was in regards to sending off Simon Jones, this time he says that the All Blacks shouldn't be regarded as the best in the world because they have not won the World Cup recently.
While this is absolutely true, I continue to find it astonishing that a man who has had his teams completely thrashed five times in a row (England twice last year and the Lions this year) has the audacity to comment on the winning teams short comings.
He is on a completely different wave length to reality.
Interesting article - http://xtramsn.co.nz/rugby/0,,12416-4557186,00.html?GXHC_GX_jst=8258c07950ea6164
From the Guardian:
Woodward and Campbell - a duo mesmerised by self-regard
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,10260,1527382,00.html
Woodward and Campbell - a duo mesmerised by self-regard
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,10260,1527382,00.html
Great article Ready.
The last paragraph is spot on.
I read some of the articles Campbell wrote that were referred to in this link. The writer is absolutely right. It was incredible how Campbell could write about legends such as Ali or Coe and seem to focus on his own boring self the whole time.
The last paragraph is spot on.
I read some of the articles Campbell wrote that were referred to in this link. The writer is absolutely right. It was incredible how Campbell could write about legends such as Ali or Coe and seem to focus on his own boring self the whole time.
The article Campbell wrote about Burnley's FA Cup tie against Blackburn also had to be seen to be believed. Zero credibility. What a plonker.
