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Rich V Carl - Team Selection
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Dont need to be a fitness coach to know that match simulation is a different fitness to running straight lines recovering from an injury.
Hope im wrong and Graham and co have ripper games but Jack G looked like he had concrete boots on throughout most of 2022. Coming from an interrupted pre season he should have played at least 2-3 games in the 2s.
Dont think people have realised just how slow a team we have.
Add in a couple of underdone players and you have a problem.
The match committee know this which is why they have gone with the desperate selection of Mansell as a pressure fwd who has some leg speed.
More than happy to be proven wrong and hopefully we go 4-0
Not sure that Mansell has earned the GOAT status.
I get the logic that structurally Cumbo is more similar to Martin, but that's because our structure is wrong.
Someone needs to tattoo every single member of our MC on their foreheads with 'defensive forwards are pointless'.
There is simply no place for them anymore.
Given that from a kick out you can run 25 metres untouched and launch it 50 means you are defending on your wings (which is why Kmac and Marlion are so valuable).
From a dead ball in the forward line, you want ball winners who can use the ball, not people who run around like headless chickens. In regards to Mansell specifically, he's more likely to give away a free kick then hold the ball in. This is particularly stark with how difficult it is to earn a holding the ball free kick now, and how easy it is for the person pressuring to infringe.
And finally, given how easy it is to find a target by foot from the backline now, as you can kick 360 degrees without the man on the mark moving, pressure forwards end up just doing a lot of standing still on the mark. You can't out chase the ball in mid-air.
Defending and pressure happen in the mid. The forward line is for forwards now.
Also, we've got Cotchy playing defensive forward? I feel like Cotchy and Mansell should be competing for the same spot if anything.
You'd play just Tom as a tall so the opposition can double team him??
People seem to forget that Jack still kicked 40 goals last year at an average of 1.9goals per game, putting him at joint 24th in the AFL.
Not bad for a player some are saying is finished.
This side offers a lot of flexibility. So many of them can play multiple roles if we need to change it up. Dimma likes that & has regularly talked about it as a strength.
That said first up he’s backed in the guys that have delivered for him before. Here’s hoping he gets them to go again.
That said first up he’s backed in the guys that have delivered for him before. Here’s hoping he gets them to go again.
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They are down for Taller backs, with Marchbank missing again.
Will try and use him in the same role as they use Marchbank when he actually plays.
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Seem to have gone with a few who have had limited pre seasons which is fairly concerning for mine. Apart from that, for the most part we've gone for a very experienced n balanced side. Pointless pretending to know better than the coaches before we've even played a game so I'll save my grumbling n complaining expertise till Friday's I told you so time.
Agree. So basically Noah Cumberland is Stuart McGill. If this is the case he may as well request a trade to Sydney to play on the SCG regularly. Only time we ever saw the McGiller. Or maybe he can go play in India!
Yes I know.
But back to your point, pressure forwards are now redundant in the game. So again what purpose does he serve if that’s the case.
I agree with you that Mansell isn’t the player to play that role but i disagree that pressure small forwards aren’t required.
What MRJ did at times last year literally swung games back in our favour.
Yep agree.
On paper we look slow and there's a few pre season interrupted players who have been given the nod.
Not to answer for Coburg, but MRJ possesses creative talent as well, and lots of it. He is the minimum for a ‘pressure’ forward, a bloody smart player as well and has learnt his forward craft over his whole junior career - as for Mansell…???
One trick pony I think and not sure how good that trick is.
Hopefully have egg on face, but even if it works tomorrow night, it won’t last. So why go there?
Good reason to play Samson to stretch them in key backs. McGovern might be a late withdrawal if Samson doesn't play as they don't want to risk him
Docherty getting 35+ possies off HB and dominating the game is our biggest thereat IMO. He can bring Saads overlap run into the game and hit up Curnow with 45m bullets just forward of center. Based on our aging forwards who apply the pressure of a strip of 2nd hand masking tape, I understand why we are trying to find some forward pressure alongside Rioli Jnr. I assume Mansell will scrap with Docherty all night, accidently elbow him in the back of the head every time he tackles him, cause several melees and end up getting suspended for 2 weeks. And Dimma will be stoked.
Again I was questioning CT’s comments regarding that pressure forwards are not required in todays game. I am not supporting the selection of Mansell. To me it screams of the Steve Morris experiment all those years ago.
What about Lloyd saying we have lost players and named Castagna, Dan Rioli (his brain must of clicked into gear for a brief second and corrected it by saying he has moved down back) but then went onto mention Jacob Aarts. Firstly Castsgna barely played last year and secondly who the *smile* is Jacob Aarts?
