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Revenue grabbers
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Anduril said:Legends of 1980 said:Never!! ;D ;D ;DLidsandBling said:they wouldn't use political strategies like that would they?
Yeah, bit like promising to raise the speed tolerance :
one parties policy is a act of fairness to the public , the others is in response to another partiews and a back flip on an existing policy, there is a difference
Interesting comment in the paper today. Apparantly the government thinks differently about drink drivers and speeding. It's not ok to have a 10% tolerance on speedos (although it's national standards), but it IS ok to have a 20% tolerance on breathalyzers because they are built to national standards! ??? ??? ???
The fact that this government didn't even know about it is a joke. So the way I read it is, it's not ok to do 3 kph over but it is ok to be 0.06 and drive.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19151371%255E2862,00.html
State defends breath test
Ellen Whinnett and Ashley Gardiner
16may06
TRANSPORT Minister Peter Batchelor yesterday admitted he had no idea drivers were given a 20 per cent tolerance on roadside breath tests.
"I've got to admit, I wasn't generally aware of it until it was brought forward in the paper," Mr Batchelor said.
But he defended the integrity of the system, despite revelations drink-drivers are getting back behind the wheel.
Police Minister Tim Holding was at a meeting in Perth yesterday.
The Herald Sun revealed yesterday that drivers who had a blood alcohol reading of up to .0615 could produce a breath test result under .05 because of secret, 20 per cent reductions built into the breathalyser machines.
A police officer told the Herald Sun yesterday officers had held concerns with the devices for years.
"We rely on the devices when we've got no confidence in the readings, yet we have to submit documents and go to court under oath," he said.
"All we're advised is that a consideration is built into the devices due to legal issues.
"Everyone is laughing about it today. The equipment's faulty and we can't guarantee the readings."
Mr Batchelor yesterday said the 20 per cent built-in tolerance was part of a national standard.
"It's been in place ever since the preliminary breath testing procedures were first developed," he said.
Opposition police spokesman Kim Wells said it made a mockery of the Transport Accident Commission's "just a little bit over" safety campaign.
"You can't be advertising one thing, saying just a little bit over, but on the other hand allowing all those people up to .015 off scot-free," Mr Wells said.
The fact that this government didn't even know about it is a joke. So the way I read it is, it's not ok to do 3 kph over but it is ok to be 0.06 and drive.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19151371%255E2862,00.html
State defends breath test
Ellen Whinnett and Ashley Gardiner
16may06
TRANSPORT Minister Peter Batchelor yesterday admitted he had no idea drivers were given a 20 per cent tolerance on roadside breath tests.
"I've got to admit, I wasn't generally aware of it until it was brought forward in the paper," Mr Batchelor said.
But he defended the integrity of the system, despite revelations drink-drivers are getting back behind the wheel.
Police Minister Tim Holding was at a meeting in Perth yesterday.
The Herald Sun revealed yesterday that drivers who had a blood alcohol reading of up to .0615 could produce a breath test result under .05 because of secret, 20 per cent reductions built into the breathalyser machines.
A police officer told the Herald Sun yesterday officers had held concerns with the devices for years.
"We rely on the devices when we've got no confidence in the readings, yet we have to submit documents and go to court under oath," he said.
"All we're advised is that a consideration is built into the devices due to legal issues.
"Everyone is laughing about it today. The equipment's faulty and we can't guarantee the readings."
Mr Batchelor yesterday said the 20 per cent built-in tolerance was part of a national standard.
"It's been in place ever since the preliminary breath testing procedures were first developed," he said.
Opposition police spokesman Kim Wells said it made a mockery of the Transport Accident Commission's "just a little bit over" safety campaign.
"You can't be advertising one thing, saying just a little bit over, but on the other hand allowing all those people up to .015 off scot-free," Mr Wells said.
SCOOP said:
I flash my lights all the time - always when there is no sign of a camera or radar. Subverts the practice of flashing your lights to help speeding bludgers get away with it.
Yes and it happened again this year.
Travelling a 'detected' 69km/h from an 'alleged' 66km/h on a 60km/h and I get fined $134.
What is it with this idiotic government?
With a speedometer of not even 2cm difference from 60km/h to 70km/h, how can you possibly keep the level of speed at 60 or under when you're virtually 'pushed' by other cars behind you to move faster on a busy road.
I can understand fining drivers who go above 20km/h but under 10km/h is a complete joke.
Travelling a 'detected' 69km/h from an 'alleged' 66km/h on a 60km/h and I get fined $134.
What is it with this idiotic government?
With a speedometer of not even 2cm difference from 60km/h to 70km/h, how can you possibly keep the level of speed at 60 or under when you're virtually 'pushed' by other cars behind you to move faster on a busy road.
I can understand fining drivers who go above 20km/h but under 10km/h is a complete joke.
Yep,no way you shoulfd have got a ticket.Revenue raising at its best.TigerForce said:Yes and it happened again this year.
Travelling a 'detected' 69km/h from an 'alleged' 66km/h on a 60km/h and I get fined $134.
What is it with this idiotic government?
With a speedometer of not even 2cm difference from 60km/h to 70km/h, how can you possibly keep the level of speed at 60 or under when you're virtually 'pushed' by other cars behind you to move faster on a busy road.
I can understand fining drivers who go above 20km/h but under 10km/h is a complete joke.
would not trust them i think it was them who put private contractors in to the camera job anyway and i think it was them [state libs] who put it at 3 but could be wrong i have forgottenLidsandBling said:
my speedo is slower then the speed limit going by those speed check things i am 4 k's under better that then over ;DAnduril said:
also you can get booked for flashing people to warn them as a friend nearly found out a un marked police car saw him fash people so when he pulled up beside my friend he told him so and asked had he had his picture taken he said yes police man said not to do it again and warned him he is lucky not to get fined for flashing people with his headlights to warn themtiger in the night said:
was it thanks for correcting me , it doesn't really worry me as i will stick to the speed limit no matter what the idiot behind me is trying to get me to do tailgating is also elligalJools said:
i will go slower if tailgated when i am annoyed with them safer to try and stay at 60 and ignore the no brainer behind youTigerForce said:Yes and it happened again this year.
Travelling a 'detected' 69km/h from an 'alleged' 66km/h on a 60km/h and I get fined $134.
What is it with this idiotic government?
With a speedometer of not even 2cm difference from 60km/h to 70km/h, how can you possibly keep the level of speed at 60 or under when you're virtually 'pushed' by other cars behind you to move faster on a busy road.
I can understand fining drivers who go above 20km/h but under 10km/h is a complete joke.
the golden said:i will go slower if tailgated when i am annoyed with them safer to try and stay at 60 and ignore the no brainer behind youTigerForce said:Yes and it happened again this year.
Travelling a 'detected' 69km/h from an 'alleged' 66km/h on a 60km/h and I get fined $134.
What is it with this idiotic government?
With a speedometer of not even 2cm difference from 60km/h to 70km/h, how can you possibly keep the level of speed at 60 or under when you're virtually 'pushed' by other cars behind you to move faster on a busy road.
I can understand fining drivers who go above 20km/h but under 10km/h is a complete joke.
going slower when tailgated is a dumb *smile* attitude. you are being tailgated for a reason. you are probably going too slow in the right lane.
keep left unless overtaking and give way people. you wont get tailgated.
LidsandBling said:
Idiots still tailgate.
Simple way to deal with it is to stand on the brakes. The stooges tend to back off then.
Talking about revenue grabbers, how about this new "Water Tank Tax". $66 per year for collecting rain water and saving water.
***king joke!
***king joke!
Gypsy__Jazz said:
If you're getting tailgated on a freeway, then you should move across, thats for sure. If you're getting tailgated in the left lane, slow down and *smile* them off, its their fault. My issue with tailgaters is on the single lane roads...and I always slow down if they tailgate me at the speed limit on those roads.
I had a L-plater tailgating me on the freeway on Saturday, it was bizarre, she wouldn't leave me alone no matter how fast I went. So we played tag all the way to Fountain gate, overtaking each other in turn. I don't think her mum was very impressed (I got a glare everytime they went past me), but the driver was having a grin and the two kids in the back gave me a wave as we went past each other.
i am doing the speed limit they want to speed and it is a bit hard to keep left when it is single lane tailgating is elligal and dangerous and no one should be subjectted to it i know i do get annoyed with people who are doing say 60 in and 80 or 100 zone and i try not to get too close as i know it is elligal when safe and legal OVER TAKE DON'T TAILGATE ! :fire :veryupset :frustrationLidsandBling said:the golden said:i will go slower if tailgated when i am annoyed with them safer to try and stay at 60 and ignore the no brainer behind youTigerForce said:Yes and it happened again this year.
Travelling a 'detected' 69km/h from an 'alleged' 66km/h on a 60km/h and I get fined $134.
What is it with this idiotic government?
With a speedometer of not even 2cm difference from 60km/h to 70km/h, how can you possibly keep the level of speed at 60 or under when you're virtually 'pushed' by other cars behind you to move faster on a busy road.
I can understand fining drivers who go above 20km/h but under 10km/h is a complete joke.
going slower when tailgated is a dumb sh!t attitude. you are being tailgated for a reason. you are probably going too slow in the right lane.
keep left unless overtaking and give way people. you wont get tailgated.
also forgot to add to that you can be in a three lane highway and still get tailgated even though they can overtake legally ! >
seen that done funny thing was the guy who stood on his brakes had tailgated the guy who then tailgated him smoke went everywhere no one hit anyone but glad i was no where near the twoGypsy__Jazz said:
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