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Re: Adam Goodes
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Omg, you’re a hypocritical goose. Read what you wrote three posts back. Actually, never mind, I’ve gone against my desire to not engage you, you’re not worth it.
Just watched it on the channel 10 app. Is on there until 17 Aug.
Not sure what to say. Bloody sad for Adam. An amazing man. Derserved so much better.
Not sure what to say. Bloody sad for Adam. An amazing man. Derserved so much better.
Watched The Australian Dream last night for the first time. Impressive documentary, pretty sad how little empathy was displayed. Sam Newman, he really is a relic. And Andrew Bolt! Maguire trying to explain his king kong gaffe was pretty laughable too.
How Goodes ended up being blamed like he did for calling out the girl was terrible. It allowed so many to show just how racist they are.
It gives me pause for thought about the language and conversations I've used and had in the past, the racist jokes and so little thought for what impact those words have. But I don't have to feel guilty about Australia's history, I just need to be aware of what it is and how it has created the situation we now live in. The disadvantage many face. And I may not be able to do much but just by being aware of my words and conversations I have I can start to make a difference. A bit like changing how we talk about girls/women can have a big influence on behaviours towards girls/women for the next generations of young men.
I know my children are receiving a much more full education in regards to Australian history and have much greater empathy towards indigenous Australians.
Stan Grant is a man well worth listening to.
How Goodes ended up being blamed like he did for calling out the girl was terrible. It allowed so many to show just how racist they are.
It gives me pause for thought about the language and conversations I've used and had in the past, the racist jokes and so little thought for what impact those words have. But I don't have to feel guilty about Australia's history, I just need to be aware of what it is and how it has created the situation we now live in. The disadvantage many face. And I may not be able to do much but just by being aware of my words and conversations I have I can start to make a difference. A bit like changing how we talk about girls/women can have a big influence on behaviours towards girls/women for the next generations of young men.
I know my children are receiving a much more full education in regards to Australian history and have much greater empathy towards indigenous Australians.
Stan Grant is a man well worth listening to.
Well put and it was a good doco.
I remember thinking about all that talk of guilt some years ago and ended up being convinced that most of the people talking about guilt were those claiming we should not feel guilt. I can't remember indigenous leaders telling us we should feel guilty, or anyone else for that matter.
Excepting those who are indigenous, we all come here from different places, and can only trace our ancestry back a max of 230 years. My family likely came here sometime in the 19th century, as far as I can tell my great grandfather would be the first relative of mine born here. So where does that leave me? After much thought I came to the conclusion that guilt is just a distraction. Every day I live in this country I benefit from the dispossession of Aboriginal Australians - if I want to take the benefits of living here I also need to take the responsibility of how I came to live here, and that means advocating for aboriginal causes so they no longer face disadvantage and discrimination.
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One of Billy Joel's worst songs. Just a list of disparate issues thrown together to create an impression of... something.
Sorry for the necro bump but yeah that's exactly how i felt when I watched it. White dudes clamoring to their racist ways under the guise of free speech. The fact so many people were upset at Adam calling out a racist teenage girl over actual racism was telling.
When I was a kid in the mid eighties the aboriginal jokes were everyday stuff. We were taught they are to be feared and do not mix with them as they will steal your things. Fast forward into my twenties and I actually long term dated an indigenous girl whos brother won multiple premierships in a very successful AFL team. Her family were amazing. A family member still warned me not to let "them" around my house as things will go missing.
As it turns out a couple of months ago we confirmed my heritage as indigenous and it was a shock that my grandma was indigenous. People have since said... "what there was no clues she was indigenous?" A well kept secret that i dont really blame my parents as in the 50-60's kids were still being taken away for showing aboriginal traits or acting indigenous.
Im on the whiter shade of the tan, but looking back over photos of me as a kid and especially my mother and uncles / aunts I can definitely see it. Facial features and how brown we all looked thanks to that ripe QLD sun, even my Uncle being accepted and identifying as indigenous was hidden from us.
I also really enjoyed Stan Grants speech:
Law and Justice Foundation
www.lawfoundation.net.au
My own concept of what being Aboriginal means is so strongly associated with the entrenched disadvantage, I find it hard to separate the two, but this perspective is wider. I think the ‘wronged past,’ and the entrenched disadvantage of now, will remain a part of the concept of Aboriginal identity in future; even if we can ‘close the gap’, but this statement reminded me the present it is not the whole story.
Enough gasbagging from me.
Eddie trotting out all the standard, flimsy, Racists denials. Its as if they have a manual.
1. we didnt know is was wrong then, so its not wrong
2. But, but I have brown and black employees and aquaintances
3. The past is irrelevant, 'its about today and tomorrow'
I actually dont mind No.3. in this contexts because it means Collingwood has 0 premierships?
I think Goodsey, Lumumba, Winmar, Muir and every other black footballer who has endured racism over the years,
will appreciate, even celebrate, the leaked report on Collingwood.
1. we didnt know is was wrong then, so its not wrong
2. But, but I have brown and black employees and aquaintances
3. The past is irrelevant, 'its about today and tomorrow'
I actually dont mind No.3. in this contexts because it means Collingwood has 0 premierships?
I think Goodsey, Lumumba, Winmar, Muir and every other black footballer who has endured racism over the years,
will appreciate, even celebrate, the leaked report on Collingwood.
Has declined the Hall of Fame invitation. Wonder if he's waiting for the current AFL administration to move on? Couldn't blame him for that.
www.theage.com.au
Why Adam Goodes declined hall of fame invitation
Adam Goodes was voted unanimously into the Australian Football Hall of Fame as part of its 2021 intake but has rejected entry.
Has declined the Hall of Fame invitation. Wonder if he's waiting for the current AFL administration to move on? Couldn't blame him for that.
Why Adam Goodes declined hall of fame invitation
Adam Goodes was voted unanimously into the Australian Football Hall of Fame as part of its 2021 intake but has rejected entry.
“Adam had asked the AFL to wait before announcing his decision, which has now been made public separately"
That bit is pretty important to be honest, very telling of his character and his intentions on the matter.
Doing a Kevin Bartlett? Maybe. After watching his documentary it's pretty clear he received absolutely no support from the AFL until they were forced to act.Has declined the Hall of Fame invitation. Wonder if he's waiting for the current AFL administration to move on? Couldn't blame him for that.
Why Adam Goodes declined hall of fame invitation
Adam Goodes was voted unanimously into the Australian Football Hall of Fame as part of its 2021 intake but has rejected entry.
Goodes' achievements as an AFL Player deserve HoF entry and Legend status. I hope one day he can be comfortable receiving those awards.
