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Proposed Constitution Changes
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It is now Harry.Harry said:
Banner across the top with a link on the right.
Think it went up this arvo since I didn't see it this morning.
RedanTiger, really appreciate your work. :clap
Seems pretty obvious that any changes to the constitution are not a step towards our next premiership, but a further feathering of the Board's bed.
No way should the 100 votes for a EGM be changed. It's not as though this is being abused. Leave it as it is. It's really important.
Unfortunately I'm in Sydney for the Stone Roses on the night of the AGM...a bucket list thing. Can I give my proxy to you RedanTiger. Assuming you're going?
Seems pretty obvious that any changes to the constitution are not a step towards our next premiership, but a further feathering of the Board's bed.
No way should the 100 votes for a EGM be changed. It's not as though this is being abused. Leave it as it is. It's really important.
Unfortunately I'm in Sydney for the Stone Roses on the night of the AGM...a bucket list thing. Can I give my proxy to you RedanTiger. Assuming you're going?
The Don said:
This is from the Simon Wallace thread.
Apply for a proxy form from Michael Stahl, (do not use proxy form in the proposed changes document), work out what you must complete and arrange for your proxy voter (an attending member).
Look very closely at 6.3.1 and 6.3.2(b) in the current constitution as the chair can take any proxy not done right and vote how they like ie FOR the changes.
Proxies must be lodged with the club (ie COO Stahl) at least 48 hours before the AGM so you've got a bit of time. Pretty sure it can be done by email.
Hey, ask Stahl. That's his job
Michael Stahl
Chief Operating Officer
Member # 1079931
P: 03 9426 4415| F: 03 9429 4686| M: 0412 029 716
Email: [email protected]
Nico, PM me to arrange.
IN the crap i got in the mail, to apply for a proxy you need to email: [email protected] or phone 1800 280 494 or if outside Australia 61 3 9415 4203
After reading the mailed Notice of 132th Annual General Meeting , the following is INCORRECT.
The section "Appointment of Proxy" gives the correct details.
There are several resolutions.
Contact Computershare to obtain a Proxy form by email (votingservices@computershare. com.au) or phone (1800 280 494 within Australia or +61 3 9415 4203 outside Australia).
Proxy need NOT be a member. You may appoint the chairman. (Personally would avoid this as chair may be able to vote how THEY want).
Must be received no later than 6.00pm, 12th December 2016. (where, will probably be with the form)
Any queries to be directed to Deputy Returning Officer, Danielle Hine of Computershare on 0417 365 306.
Sorry about the confusion. Using 2011 experience without current info from the club.
Thanks JB for correcting my mistake so quickly.
RedanTiger said:
The section "Appointment of Proxy" gives the correct details.
There are several resolutions.
Contact Computershare to obtain a Proxy form by email (votingservices@computershare. com.au) or phone (1800 280 494 within Australia or +61 3 9415 4203 outside Australia).
Proxy need NOT be a member. You may appoint the chairman. (Personally would avoid this as chair may be able to vote how THEY want).
Must be received no later than 6.00pm, 12th December 2016. (where, will probably be with the form)
Any queries to be directed to Deputy Returning Officer, Danielle Hine of Computershare on 0417 365 306.
Sorry about the confusion. Using 2011 experience without current info from the club.
Thanks JB for correcting my mistake so quickly.
jb03 said:
As per the first sentence under "Appointment of Proxy" in the Notice (and posted before).
"There are several resolutions to be voted on at the Annual General Meeting. If you are unable to attend the meeting and wish to vote on these items of business you need to obtain a proxy form."
Then goes on to describe process as per my last post.
I have not seen the proxy form, however if it's like the last in 2011 you can declare your intention on the proxy or you can let your proxy or the chair vote your proxy as they like.
Because there are "several resolutions" it becomes a bit more tricky when declaring your intention.
Baloo said:
Hi Baloo, the amendments are voted for at the AGM. If you can't make it, and you still want to vote on the amendments, then you will need to fill out the proxy vote.
Cheers
There has been a fair bit of discussion about Resolutions 1 (EGM requirements) and 2 (Director terms) but there has been little about the other resolutions.
I mentioned these in my post below but I'd like to draw attention to this section.
I found the article from March in 2011 where March was talking about the need for APPOINTED directors and he specifically referred to Sydney-based directors being APPOINTED.
"The club board has been in regular contact with Sydney-based Mark Nelson and James Carnegie, successful in investment management and venture capital respectively, and has sounded them out about possible involvement ''down the track'', as March put it. ''I think they have an inclination to get involved at some time in the future.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-propose-change-to-board-elections-20111206-1oh4s.html
9.2.1 of the Constitution refers to board meetings at least once a month and dictates a quorum.
Resolution 5 says the word present will have (whether in person or via technology) inserted afterwards, in regards to board meetings.
It then adds 9.2.6 - allows meetings by technology - and 9.2.7 - allows voting by technology.
As March has clearly foreshadowed in his statements above, the board has/had a plan to have 3 directors from Sydney (or indeed anywhere in the world) validly attending and voting without setting foot in Melbourne.
I mentioned these in my post below but I'd like to draw attention to this section.
RedanTiger said:
I found the article from March in 2011 where March was talking about the need for APPOINTED directors and he specifically referred to Sydney-based directors being APPOINTED.
"The club board has been in regular contact with Sydney-based Mark Nelson and James Carnegie, successful in investment management and venture capital respectively, and has sounded them out about possible involvement ''down the track'', as March put it. ''I think they have an inclination to get involved at some time in the future.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-propose-change-to-board-elections-20111206-1oh4s.html
9.2.1 of the Constitution refers to board meetings at least once a month and dictates a quorum.
Resolution 5 says the word present will have (whether in person or via technology) inserted afterwards, in regards to board meetings.
It then adds 9.2.6 - allows meetings by technology - and 9.2.7 - allows voting by technology.
As March has clearly foreshadowed in his statements above, the board has/had a plan to have 3 directors from Sydney (or indeed anywhere in the world) validly attending and voting without setting foot in Melbourne.
RedanTiger said:
I think you got those arse about RT. They appear to be looking after the poor old boot studder!
The proposed change to clause 3.3.2.(d)(ii) states, delete the word "senior" not add it as you have posted. In the explanation section for this clause it states, This amendment is proposed because whilst the Club only designates certain members of staff as "senior", there are other members of staff from time to time who may be deserving of life membership.
Tenacious Tiges said:
Yes, misread the proposed changes off the club website which was all I had at the time.
As you say "arse about". My apologies.
However there is more to this resolution than just looking after the bootstudder. Aren't they all.
Resolution 6 also scales back the ability of members to place resolutions on the AGM agenda.
See the "explanation" notes under Clause 6.1.2 in the Notice of Proposed Resolutions sent by the club.
Goes from 10 members with 14 days notice to 100 members with 2 months notice under 249N of the Corporations Act.
Good to see though that my quote from November 22, that you post that part of, only has that one error about the bootstudder's recognition. ;D
A little off topic, I plan to attend the AGM (my first) and to vote on the Proposed Constitution Changes, do you just bring your membership to be admitted? or do you need to pre advise the club that you are attending? Probably silly question but I don't want to travel for 1 1/2 hours then find out I can not get in.
I've requested a proxy from Computershare as per club instructions. Was wondering will that be posted to me by snail mail or emailed to me so I can get it back tintype club bathe deadline on 12/12??
