-
IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.
Pick 53: Jack Graham
- Thread starter puregreen
- Start date
Depends if he wants to go home doesn’t it ?
If he doesn’t, no way we’re pro actively selling him.
OMG, thought it was just me. Thank you Red.
I thought i was ruthless re: some of our players but holy *smile*, some of the posts on Jack Graham are ridiculous.
The guy is a born leader, had an o/standing 2017 finals series as a kid, carried a dislocated shoulder for the last half of the 2019 prelim to help with rotations that helped us get into the GF and is a warrior. He'd be one of the 1st on the magnets each week. Has played with a bad toe all year (do we listen and watch the Fitness videos?) incl Dimma's comments constantly that he is a tough soldier is Jack.
No way he is traded unless he asks to go back to SA.
We shouldve allowed Baker to go.
We couldve got WC 2nd rounder or used pick 12 and Baker to get pick 2.
Pick 2 wouldve got us both Tarranto & Hopper
We couldve got WC 2nd rounder or used pick 12 and Baker to get pick 2.
Pick 2 wouldve got us both Tarranto & Hopper
Castagna, RCD and Dow are expendable for mine.
Aarts and Martyn likely to get ejected.
Last edited:
I'm a little surprised at the extreme defence. His stats are pretty underwhelming.
His tackling numbers have dropped right off & he's stagnated as a player. Solid citizen but not much more in the cold light of day.
Being traded doesn't change his heroics in previous finals campaigns one iota. More interested in what he brings in the future & I think he'll struggle to be selected.
His tackling numbers have dropped right off & he's stagnated as a player. Solid citizen but not much more in the cold light of day.
Being traded doesn't change his heroics in previous finals campaigns one iota. More interested in what he brings in the future & I think he'll struggle to be selected.
Your getting peanuts for them mate I'm talking trading good value to get us back in the draft or use them for the trade.
And we are a club, quoted ad nauseum, by our own coach, that does not look at the stats. But the Richmond man acts. Its been said many times this year, he has carried an injury all year and played through it, prob to his detriment.
Some may call it extreme defence.
Others - me - call it reading the room of how we have treated our ppl these last few years. And the value of our players to the team outside of the stats.
T
Sydney Stack and Soldo (and I am not sold on Soldo going), are the 2 likely trades. Reckon Stack might be valuable to a WA club or even an Essendon
All good. We're all entitled to our opinions here.
If list manager I'm not moving him on unless he wants to return home (it would have to be mutual) & I'd certainly want to be pretty well compensated.
I could be well wide of the mark but I'm honestly am not sure where he fits into our team going forward & I don't think the 'stand' rule helped the no 1 strengths in his game that much either.
In a trade market you need to assess the currency of all players regardless of previous deeds.
You aren't getting much value from RCD & Wil Martyn. JG has value but may be surplus to our requirements in light of current additions is all I'm thinking.
If that helps land a key forward or a ruck then for betterment of our list it needs to be considered.
Differing opinions is good. I differ from someone else re: Sydney Stack on another post.
All I am saying, robustly sure, is that its not hard to see we wont trade JGTI. Only if he asks to go, so yes, if he asks, we'd get an ok deal.
Cotch has 13-15 games left. Dion's injuries a massive worry. 3-4 hammies this year and it was claimed he had a great pre-season.
who is confident he wont do hammies next year?
Dusty's days playing more than 40% midfield time are gone IMO.
That's 3 mids needing replacement in 2024. Room for JGTI.
Who knows how we will be held to ransom by Shai's m/ment next year.
Could not agree more that RCd and Martyn are worth zero. Throw Castagna, Dow and Aarts into that category.
Stack is the one that could help unlock some value IMO. Not a lot of value, but something that will help. As posted on the other thread, we dont need him - we already have 2-3 options for Small F and small B.
And on 2nd thoughts, I'd trade out Dow too.
Last edited:
If we bring in both Taranto and Hopper it does get hard to see where Graham fits. Certainly once Cotchin retires and with Dusty playing more forward he would be part of the rotations, but in 2023?
I'd want to hold on to Graham but he needs a role at least for next year.
DS
I'd want to hold on to Graham but he needs a role at least for next year.
DS
No way in hell he gets traded unless he gets picked off by the crows. He might want to go back home I have NFI.
But he won’t be pushed out with hopper and tranto coming in. He’s a key to it IMO. Three hard core inside players allow our elder gents to add the cream.
