Melbourne Publiic Transport Infrastructure

[AngryAnt]

There is a theme park at the Docklands. Hand on a sec, the Ferris Wheel that we copied from every other city in the world was a half arsed effort like everything else our politicians from the last 3 decades or so have come up with and still hasn't been built properly yet. :

That's a private sector project and has nothing to do with the state government.

 

[Ian4]

http://ptv.vic.gov.au/news/news-promotions/network-development-plan-metropolitan-rail/

 

[TigerForce]

http://ptv.vic.gov.au/news/news-promotions/network-development-plan-metropolitan-rail/

I laughed. Great plan gov, now you can shelve it. How much money was wasted on that 'plan'? Full of colours and rail lines similar to the Tube.

I laughed.

 

[evo]

I'm pissed off about the Doncaster link delayed for another 15 years.

No shyte, I can remember when they started talking about it 30 years ago,

Instead they plan to widen the freeway. Gimme strength.

 

[tigersnake]

I'm p!ssed off about the Doncaster link delayed for another 15 years.

No shyte, I can remember when they started talking about it 30 years ago,

Instead they plan to widen the freeway. Gimme strength.

It stupidly dumb. First thing you learn in planning school is that as population grows, more and bigger roads just means more and bigger traffic jams. Yet they still keep on making decsions like this. There are a heap of dumb and frustrating reasons, but 1 is that the politicians never take a bus or catch a train.

 

[K3]

I'm p!ssed off about the Doncaster link delayed for another 15 years.

No shyte, I can remember when they started talking about it 30 years ago,

Instead they plan to widen the freeway. Gimme strength.

The 'not at all' funny thing about this is that a petition was sent through, to the then state govt, in around 1830... and yet here we are still.

 

[1eyedtiger]

That's a private sector project and has nothing to do with the state government.

I'll give you that because our governments do nothing these days anyway. Public or private is irrelevant, my belief that anything can be achieved in this country anymore is more than just dead and buried.

This country is seriously the lucky country because we are definitely not smart.

 

[TigerForce]

The 'not at all' funny thing about this is that a petition was sent through, to the then state govt, in around 1830... and yet here we are still.

Not even a tram line to the Doncaster, Balwyn, Bulleen region, but then again, who wants screeching turtle boxes running at 5km/h.

 

[evo]

extending the Balwyn tram to Shoppingtown would be a good compromise. They should've done it years ago.

The claim is Doncaster Rd is too steep, but there are ways of getting atround it. "cough* San Francisco.
If you guys know the area, the Doncaster Goldf course is just about to be ripped up and turned into 5 large appartment buildings. When added to all the other high risers that are going on Doncaster Hill it is going to be a big population explosion in the next 5 years in the area.

The urban planners are making Doncaster Hill one of these large mixed use 'hubs' like Dandenong, Frankston, Ringwood Box Hill etc. but it is the only one not serviced by a train/tram.

 

[AngryAnt]

I'll give you that

You'll give me that? Gee thanks, but although we are all entitled to our own opinions, we are not entitled to our own facts.

 

[RfC77]

The latest i've heard on the proposed 3rd track on the Pakenham line(to facilitate express trains) has been scrapped because it was deemed too costly to acquire the land.

 

[tigertim]

Yep, lets put it off til land gets cheaper :

 

[KnightersRevenge]

I propose a mass public protest that we will blockade any work to build any road in Melbourne that doesn't include concurrent work on the rail network.

 

[Ian4]

I propose a mass public protest that we will blockade any work to build any road in Melbourne that doesn't include concurrent work on the rail network.

I'm in

 

[Ian4]

Absolutely disgusted the state government hasn't put any funding towards the metro rail tunnel. Extremely angry

 

[TigerForce]

Absolutely disgusted the state government hasn't put any funding towards the metro rail tunnel. Extremely angry

Who isn't Bin. Their only quick fix solution is to bring more trains in....which aren't enough anyway.

What was the point of building that new Williams Landing station when it's only 1km away from Aircraft station?

 

[Ian4]

Who isn't Bin. Their only quick fix solution is to bring more trains in....which aren't enough anyway.

surely fixing public transport infrastraucture is more important than new roads? public transport has been ignored for decades my successive governments. i'm so upset about this. unbelievable.

What was the point of building that new Williams Landing station when it's only 1km away from Aircraft station?

if you've ever caught the werribbe train you would understand why. firstly, point cook is a huge growth area. secondly, they're trynig to release the pressure off laverton station - who's car park is always full before the sun comes up... but it won't fix the problem because laverton is in zone 1 and williams landing is in zone 2.

FYI, the government wanted to close aircraft station, but local traders protested and won.

 

[Liverpool]

surely fixing public transport infrastraucture is more important than new roads? public transport has been ignored for decades my successive governments. i'm so upset about this. unbelievable.

Both are important and both are overclogged with users.

In the paper today:

Since the start of this century, in just 13 years, Melbourne's population has grown by 25 per cent.
In that time, its road space and the capacity of its trains and trams have grown by more like 5 per cent. That's the problem. Moving around the city has become more difficult. Voters have become more angry

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/voters-will-punish-those-who-dither-on-transport-20130507-2j5p1.html#ixzz2Sg2NFtwf


Its o.k encouraging immigration, opening our borders more, and slackening off on visas...but the result is what we have now.

Until the infrastructures are capable of handling a bulging and continually growing population, then you need to limit population growth until the infrastructure catches up.
And its not just transport....the same goes for food, water, electricity, housing, employment, medical care, education, etc, etc, etc.

How many times have we heard complaints about overcrowded classrooms or hospital bed queues?
The same thing.

Our population growth is outgrowing any investment in the infrastructures we are building now.

 

[TigerForce]

surely fixing public transport infrastraucture is more important than new roads? public transport has been ignored for decades my successive governments. i'm so upset about this. unbelievable.

A bit like us. Both govts are too scared to take the next step up. These pricks just do their time in govt, earn their pay, gain their fame and reside in paradise when they finish, not caring one bit about what we all live through. These 19th century railway lines are brushed-up for 21st century just like those old silver rattlers from Japan still running after 30+ years and dressed up like new Metro trains. How far can we all go as this city's population just gets bigger and makes this worse?

 

[evo]

Yeah, it's all very disapointing.

I'm not a huge public transport guy, but I would be if we had a good system.

Iknow Singapore is a bit more condensed than Melbourne, but its public transport system is a delight to use. So is Londons. all things considered.