Kicking long without looking

[skiptomystu]

Now I know sometimes there is no other option, but I lost count of the amount of times one of our players (Webberly was a bad culprit for it) just bombed long in hope, with as many as two St.Kilda players by themselves waiting for a mark and then often a rebound and scoring shot.

I guess it might come down to youth and being a bit uncomposed, but its something we can hopefully iron out of our game in the coming weeks.

 

[GEDS1]

Skip if we had some decent crumbers in the F50 it would have helped. Nason and Nahas need to hand back tonights pay cheque.

 

[skiptomystu]

Point taken but I was actually referring to instances where there was actually NO Richmond player within 30 meters of the where the ball landed, happened a lot of the time out on the wing and off of half-back.

 

[crackertiger]

Yep your spot on with this thread. There seems to be a pattern of bombing the ball without looking. It's not surprising considering that Campbell our midfield coach was the ball the ball specialist.

 

[GoodOne]

Skip if we had some decent crumbers in the F50 it would have helped. Nason and Nahas need to hand back tonights pay cheque.

I've had employees have shocking days. Not one has ever handed me back their pay packet. ;D

 

[Panthera tigris FC]

Was going to start a thread on this topic, but you beat me to it.

Was a striking feature of our game tonight with Webberley and Tuck the main culprits. This, along with some absolutely shocking turn overs out of defence and some missed opportunities in front of goal were the main reasons for our loss. I thought we tackled well and were very competitive in the clinches, but we've got to run harder (hopefully this ability develops with experience) and eradicate the turnovers before we will be a consistent finals peformer.

 

[ZeroGame]

Skip if we had some decent crumbers in the F50 it would have helped. Nason and Nahas need to hand back tonights pay cheque.

Definitely Nahas, he was AWOL tonight
Nason spent a lot of time in the midfield and had a forward tag on him by Fisher early I think until Fisher had to go to Riewoldt.

 

[tigertrue]

Yep your spot on with this thread. There seems to be a pattern of bombing the ball without looking. It's not surprising considering that Campbell our midfield coach was the ball the ball specialist.

:hihi

unconsciously, i thought the same thing numerous times

even Martin was guilty, but its refreshing to know he's actually got something left to learn.

 

[skiptomystu]

:hihi

unconsciously, i thought the same thing numerous times

even Martin was guilty, but its refreshing to know he's actually got something left to learn.

Yeah actually despite my love for all things Martin he did it a bit too....loves kicking long that bloke.

 

[Streak]

There were certainly times though where the quick ball forward with a long kick inside 50 paid dividends.

Guys have to learn to move it quickly but with some vision.

 

[martyshire]

Totally Agree with this thread. Tuck has always been the biggest offender but tonight we were all doing it.

And the nuffies in the crowd still yell out 'KICK THE BLOODY THING' at every opportunity :

 

[skiptomystu]

There were certainly times though where the quick ball forward with a long kick inside 50 paid dividends.

Guys have to learn to move it quickly but with some vision.

Oh yeah of course, and to be fair I wasn't talking about the times we went inside 50 with long bombs. I'm all for that.

Again, I'm talking about times we bombed from half back to the wing/half forward only to see a nest of Saints waiting for it.

 

[LeighW]

Totally Agree with this thread. Tuck has always been the biggest offender but tonight we were all doing it.

And the nuffies in the crowd still yell out 'KICK THE BLOODY THING' at every opportunity :

The handball round in circles just to get caught doesn't frustrate you?

 

[tigertrue]

:hihi

this could end up as a kicking long without looking and handballing in circles sort of thread

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Totally Agree with this thread. Tuck has always been the biggest offender but tonight we were all doing it.

And the nuffies in the crowd still yell out 'KICK THE BLOODY THING' at every opportunity :

Nuffies will be nuffies I guess. Shame I couldn't get there tonight it would have been fun to see Jack in full flight. I watched on the telly and they popped up a stat in the third that said the Tiges had had 3 backwards kicks to the Saints 30-odd (I might be over-stating that but the margin was big) which is something that has been noticeable all year. Perhaps the long kicking is a side effect of this.

 

[tommystigers]

Tuck is chronic. It will never be worked out of him at his age and probably the main reason he is derided on here. "If" he could sort this out he would be ticking over BOG's every week.

 

[martyshire]

The handball round in circles just to get caught doesn't frustrate you?

Of course. I hate the hot potato phenomenon as much as the next person but they only do that when there's no clear option to kick to. And if there's no clear option to kick to then, yes, you're better off handballing! (some people in the crowd don't seem to get that part)

It's not the fact that they are handballing that makes them get caught. It's the fact that they are not working their way out of a situation properly. i.e. not drawing body contact after handballing, handballing to a stationary player or handballing before they have drawn their opponent. The opposition player who is about to tackle player A should NOT be allowed to end up tackling player B - but this happens all the time. If we worked better as a team, our players would have more time to look up and wouldn't have to throw it on the boot in hope. Most times a player does this it's a sign that we are not working together and we can can't handle the opposition pressure.

 

[Willo]

Of course. I hate the hot potato phenomenon as much as the next person but they only do that when there's no clear option to kick to. And if there's no clear option to kick to then, yes, you're better off handballing! (some people in the crowd don't seem to get that part)

It's not the fact that they are handballing that makes them get caught. It's the fact that they are not working their way out of a situation properly. i.e. not drawing body contact after handballing, handballing to a stationary player or handballing before they have drawn their opponent. The opposition player who is about to tackle player A should NOT be allowed to end up tackling player B - but this happens all the time. If we worked better as a team, our players would have more time to look up and wouldn't have to throw it on the boot in hope. Most times a player does this it's a sign that we are not working together and we can can't handle the opposition pressure.

They've got to learn how and when to "spread", Marty. Work hard in both directions, gut running, hopefully more to come.

 

[tigertim]

Is the right time to hijack the thread by bringing up the kicking-in out of defence? Similarly to the "kicking long without looking" the kick ins usually end in a turnover or a disputed ball ball up.

The full back kicking in either ends up in a short dinky kick-in then the 2nd kick turns it over or ends up in a disputed ball OR the full back has nothing to kick to then plays on and either runs the ball over or the ball ends up in dispute OR the full back just kicks long and hopes which often ends up in a turnover or a disputed ball.

Why are we still so bad at kick ins after a behin? The oppostion must love kicking a behind against us! What does the gameplan say about kick-ins from a behind?

 

[Giardiasis]

Is the right time to hijack the thread by bringing up the kicking-in out of defence? Similarly to the "kicking long without looking" the kick ins usually end in a turnover or a disputed ball ball up.

The full back kicking in either ends up in a short dinky kick-in then the 2nd kick turns it over or ends up in a disputed ball OR the full back has nothing to kick to then plays on and either runs the ball over or the ball ends up in dispute OR the full back just kicks long and hopes which often ends up in a turnover or a disputed ball.

Why are we still so bad at kick ins after a behin? The oppostion must love kicking a behind against us! What does the gameplan say about kick-ins from a behind?

We are bad at gut running and finding space. That is why we are so poor at winning our share of uncontested footy. Kicking in from a behind has limited space so it becomes even harder. As the players get fitter we should improve, but we also lack high quality outside runners anyway. Think of players like McMahon, except not soft, poorly shaven and sh!t.