rosy23 said:
Very ordinary posting Livers. There's no need to make it so personal. At least you did remove the post about a group of you laughing at my posts. I was going to ask you who the other sad cases were.
I haven't removed any of my posts....so if you feel one of my posts have been removed, then maybe take it up with your own moderators.
And yes, there is a need to make it more personal.
I have no problem people being pro-ALP and sticking up for the Chairman if that is their belief...but I do have a problem with posters who try to hide this belief under a 'cloak of objectivity' while wearing a Kevin07 t-shirt underneath.
These posters attempt to take the high moral ground and try to perceive themselves to be of open-mind on this forum when in reality, they have their opinions and have already taken sides yet don't have the intestinal fortitude to stick by them in public and on posts.
These posters continue with their charades even though it is quite clear what side of the political spectrum they support.
rosy23 said:
I have voted for parties other than Labor, who I voted for at the last election. I am not a one-sided, one-party person at all. I doubt very much I'll be voting Labor in the next state election. I dount very much I'll be voting Liberal in the next Federal election either. They are a rabble. If they can't run their party better I wouldn't trust them to run the country.
People on this forum (and that includes yourself) see me as a pro-Lib....that is a wrong perception...I am simply anti-ALP for a start and then I vote for the party that I deem to be more in line with my ideals.
In my voting-life, this has been the Lib Party but if the Libs continue to implode and another party shows me something that I agree with, then that is who I will vote for.
Since I reached voting age....every ALP Government I have had dealings with, whether it be State Government (Cain/Kirner...Bracks/Brumby)...or Federal (Hawke/Keating/Rudd) have rooted the place.
Whether it be Cain/Kirner and the destruction of the state's credit-rating....or Keating leaving the country in massive debt (and Rudd on the way to doing the same)....it has always been the Libs that come in that have fixed things afterwards.
Kennett turned the state around and Howard turned us around from a large deficit to a surplus.
This is why I am anti-ALP....I usually find not only economically, they are a disaster at running the place...but many of the policies are leftist/socialist ones that I find ridiculous.
That is simply my personal opinion but I'd like to think I am honest enough to speak my opinion and where my allegiances lie here on this forum, even if people don't agree.
rosy23 said:
If it was Rudd calling for Turnbull to resign based on a forged e-mail I wouldn't be impressed either. The fact is it is a Liberal doing. I haven't said I believe the accusations are factual or fabricated. I just want to see evidence either way. Very strange none has been put forward by those trying to convince us of any wrongdoing.
The fact is the email is a fake, according to the Feds.
(Interesting question: How did Rudd know it was fake BEFORE the Feds were called in???)
The fact is that Swan has received faxes at home and emails regarding a specific car-dealer, which has given a car to Rudd, Swan himself bought a car from him, and he is a ALP supporter who has donated money to them.
The fact is that we have the Treasurer of the nation dealing with individual car lots and taking a special interest in the same dealership that is mates with Rudd.
The fact that some of Swan's statements in Parliament don't match up with what has happened and been found.
Now you want proof of wrongdoing...and thats what all the Utegate scandal was trying to uncover...trying to find the extent of Swan's relationship with this car dealer and what was happening behind the scenes....because if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and smells like a duck.....its usually a duck. Or in this case, a Swan :hihi
It was a shame and a pity that the fake email appeared and Turnbull saw this as the green-light to go for the Chairman's jugular, as everyone then concentrated on this instead of the Swan/Grant relationship which is more juicy than the Rudd/Grant one.
However, surely you have to be a little suspicious of the evidence at hand....especially a Treasurer of the standing Government dealing personally with individual car lots.....and don't try and tell me he is just being the most diligent Treasurer in the history of politics, as we are talking about Swan here!
rosy23 said:
I'll be watching with even more interest to see what the Feds come up with, especially on the rats in the ranks leaking and receiving higly confidential treasury information. That is of far more concern than some coincidence about where a person bought their car from imo. I suspect a couple of people won't be sleeping too well at night at the moment.
Its not just one coincidence...its a range of coincidences.
rosy23 said:
The fact you turned so personal, and made such false accusations about me, speaks volumes.
And what false accusations would those be?
I reckon I hit the nail on the head, to be frank about it.
