Interchange format? (poll)

[Tigers of Old]

It's official, 80 interchanges per game.
What a joke.

Yeah I'm not a fan. Adds another layer of complexity and could cause genuine confusion .

Also how does this flow down throught the lower levels? Does the capping have to be policed in every competition in the land?

Changes the game too much IMO. Would have preferred 2-2 (unlimited).

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Just back to the way it was no substitute.

What he said. The way it was when we had 4 on the bench and no cap. They said the game was too slow, so the rules committee altered things to speed it up, then it got too fast and they had to change the rules to slow it down again. Disband the rules committee and put a moratorium on changes for a specified period, at least 2 seasons.

 

[TigerForce]

I heard someone on SEN last week mention what a hypocrit KB is.

Plays part in the rules committee but complains about rule changes on his show. Is this true??

 

[Brodders17]

On the other, now the AFL are saying, stop the players resting to slow the game down. FFS! If you want the game to look like it did 15 years ago, undo all the rule changes that sped the game up from the last 15 years! *smile*s!

i dont think this is quite accurate. yes the afl wants to keep the game 'sped up'. they want the ball in play as much as possible, they want the ball to keep moving. they dont want the game to stop all the time, giving players time to mass around it.
now they arent trying to 'slow' the game down. they are trying to slow the players down. to keep them from running to every stoppage, from massing where the ball is. they are trying to stop the mauling packs which so many fans complain about.

i think the 2 aims actually work together.

as for capping, maybe it will work.

 

[TigerFurious]

Any restrictions on the interchange are going to make it more of a midfielders game not less.

If I were Hardwick, I'd look at playing an extra midfielder and ditch the third tall up forward. Grigg and Deledio might want to start practicing their marking because I can see them playing an important role as a marking forward as they 'rest' from the midfield.

As for recruiting, suddenly the beep test results take on a whole lot more importance. Any kid around 188cm to 192cm with a bit of endurance and the ability to take a mark are going to see their value rise sharply.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

What the AFL is proposing is ridiculous on so many levels. It will hinder player safety, not support or improve it.

If the coaches require the players to do the same amount of running, yes it will. No coach wants to cede an advantage by backing off on the physical demands of their gameplan. Unfortunately the current trend of rolling mauls has come about in part through expansion/abuse of the interchange bench.

I think the AFL is winding it back by degrees, rather than making a really drastic change and risking conflict with players/coaches/clubs. Small step in the right direction IMO, although it does have an experimental air about it.

On the one hand, you have more umpires than ever before, bouncing the ball immediately, encouraging or allowing play on and advantage, no wait time when a score happens, boundary umpires throwing the ball back in immediately - these were changes to speed the game up, introduced over the course of the last 10 years.

Essentially so the game can be more easily "packaged" for the TV networks.

On the other, now the AFL are saying, stop the players resting to slow the game down. FFS! If you want the game to look like it did 15 years ago, undo all the rule changes that sped the game up from the last 15 years! *smile*s!

Wouldn't be a bad thing IMO, the game flowed better then. These days it has "gears", and the action often occurs in bursts. We're moving more towards the "set plays" of US sport.

 

[doherz]

i dont think this is quite accurate. yes the afl wants to keep the game 'sped up'. they want the ball in play as much as possible, they want the ball to keep moving. they dont want the game to stop all the time, giving players time to mass around it.
now they arent trying to 'slow' the game down. they are trying to slow the players down. to keep them from running to every stoppage, from massing where the ball is. they are trying to stop the mauling packs which so many fans complain about.

i think the 2 aims actually work together.

as for capping, maybe it will work.

if that is the AFLs aim, I would have much preferred to see players restricted to "zones" for periods of the game, such as 6 inside F50 at every bounce, only mids inside the square until the ball is cleared, something like that. capping rotations when the game is sooooo fast will jsut lead to player break down, or perhaps as McGuire commented, use of performance enhancing drugs. The players wont stop, they will break down more.
This is counter productive.

 

[doherz]

Any restrictions on the interchange are going to make it more of a midfielders game not less.

If I were Hardwick, I'd look at playing an extra midfielder and ditch the third tall up forward. Grigg and Deledio might want to start practicing their marking because I can see them playing an important role as a marking forward as they 'rest' from the midfield.

As for recruiting, suddenly the beep test results take on a whole lot more importance. Any kid around 188cm to 192cm with a bit of endurance and the ability to take a mark are going to see their value rise sharply.

Expect Griffiths will become a 300 game legend - if he can stay on the park

 

[jb03]

All they have to do is make it 80 interchanges all up. If a team makes its 81st, or subsequent rotation due to injury, then there is no need for a penalty but that player must obviously be injured so he can’t come back out on the field for the rest of the game.

This TOTs, good stuff. Seems the obvious solution to me and pretty simple. 80 interchanges then 4 substitutes with no starting sub.

Got me buggered why one man's opinion (KB) carries so much weight. Where is the evidence that reducing interchanges will reduce congestion around the ball and who says congestion around the ball is a bad thing anyway except to old codgers who want a return to the way footy was played in the 70's. Young kids today except it for what it is.

 

[TigerForce]

This TOTs, good stuff. Seems the obvious solution to me and pretty simple. 80 interchanges then 4 substitutes with no starting sub.

Got me buggered why one man's opinion (KB) carries so much weight. Where is the evidence that reducing interchanges will reduce congestion around the ball and who says congestion around the ball is a bad thing anyway except to old codgers who want a return to the way footy was played in the 70's. Young kids today except it for what it is.

90s not 70s. Free flowing, contested marks, KPPs were real KPPs.

Congestion is making the game look like rugby. We might as well bring in the scrum, kick into touch and knock ons now. ;D

 

[Tommo37]

All it's going to mean is that more players will stay on the park longer, and those players will be the one's who do the least amount of running during the game.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Looks like Jon Ralph and Michael Warner jumped the gun. No change to interchange rules until 2014.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Looks like Jon Ralph and Michael Warner jumped the gun. No change to interchange rules until 2014.

Geez Ralph's had a good week.

Eddie's saying further changes could force players to take EPO.
Seems a bit extreme. What's his agenda there?

 

[jb03]

Geez Ralph's had a good week.

Eddie's saying further changes could force players to take EPO.
Seems a bit extreme. What's his agenda there?

Perhaps he simply didn't want the change and that was the best excuse he could come up with.

 

[TOT70]

Geez Ralph's had a good week.

Eddie's saying further changes could force players to take EPO.
Seems a bit extreme. What's his agenda there?

Just the usual rantings of Fat Eddie-remember he has a lot of dead air to fill each morning.

He does seem to know quite a bit about EPO though. He seems to be suggesting that if players were to, hypothetically, get involved with it as a response to something out of their control, like a change in the Interchange rules, then it would be quite understandable. Does he know something that others don't know?

I doubt that EPO would be of much use to him.

 

[D85]

EPO was a lot of use for Lance Armstrong :-X


Good to see sanity prevailed with the interchange. :clap

 

[Barnzy]

Looks like Jon Ralph and Michael Warner jumped the gun. No change to interchange rules until 2014.

Changed the ruck rules though. No contact at stoppages. I guess they had to change at least 1 rule to feel like they were doing something.

Just after we recruited a ruck who thrives on the physical nature of the game too.

 

[davidrodan]

Changed the ruck rules though. No contact at stoppages. I guess they had to change at least 1 rule to feel like they were doing something.

Just after we recruited a ruck who thrives on the physical nature of the game too.

so that's why we kept Gus

 

[feisty tige]

No ruck wrestling... put skirts on 'em, play netball....


Actually, netball might have more contact than footy soon...

Fair Dinkum.

Well, at least it will be interesting to see how it is policed...

 

[GoodOne]

What happens if you miscount and have extra rotations? What's the penalty?