Game Day - Tigers v Swans

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

But he coaches to win in the other games.

That's great. Doesn't mean he should be forgiven for screwing ours, then playing the victim when called out.

24 & under he had

Hewett <=> Graham
Heeney <=> Bolton
Papley <=> Castagna
Mills <=> Short
Dawson <=> Chol
Florent <=> Eggmolesse-Smith
Hayward <=> Rioli
McLean <=> Soldo
Blakey <=> Balta

Their younger blokes have more talent than ours and he didn't allow them to play. What happens the next time the Swans are up against a better team? I bet he doesn't pull that stunt again.

 

[Number8]

Many callers to SEN are dills and one bloke yesterday was no exception.

He was a Carlton fan (not a good start) who, justifiably, wanted to tell the world how proud he was of his team's excellent win on Sunday. He said he loved the way they played. Took on the game, were hard and tough, played an attacking brand, used fast handball, etc.

Then, I kid you not, he voiced his support for Sydney's tactics, saying Longmire should be congratulated for not allowing his team to be blown out of the water.

Whatever we might think of Carlton, their wins against Geelong and the Bulldogs, in particular, were built on an attractive and sustainable method that is designed for scoring. Hard running, corridor-based, one-on-one footy.

Though the Blues were well beaten by us in R1, you'd be blind not to see they will be better off in the long term for playing in a way that gives them a chance to win, unlike Sydney who simply conceded half way through the first quarter because the big, bad Tigers had strung together a few quick goals.

If I were developing a team, I'd rather lose trying to win than drill a turgid, unproductive and ultimately pointless brand of footy into my players.

That was a wasted opportunity for Sydney.

Their players learned nothing except that their coach has no confidence in their ability.

 

[tigerman]

In defence of longmire (and balanced footy)...
The match was crap and sydney didnt try and win it.
But the swans have changed gamestyle this year, with a lot of fast handball runs and corridor attacks. In the first half they broke through a number of times.
It could have been an entertaining match.
But after losing Kennedy and the rain they stopped and the defense only was set up.

If we assess the swans we see they have no key forwards (blakely at 19 is a flake and thinks he is a tall rioli), key backs of Rampe and Robbie Fox (soon to be delisted) are both shorter than Caddy.
The ruck is a 7 gamer who has Pattison's height and Gus' footy IQ.
They have 3 mids, and 1 went off injured.
In short they are a short *smile* team with holes across the park.
(We had a lot of outs but still had 2 key forwards, key backs and star mids. An older stronger team.)
Forget the talk about the games played. Their structure is blown away.

He coached so that it wasnt a blowout against the premiers and it was a rotten game.
But he coaches to win in the other games.

Yes perhaps with Buddy and Reid in the side he might've tried to win, I just wasn't happy with him not accepting any fault and effectively calling Dimma a liar.

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Richmond		Sydney
185.9cm	Height	185.8cm

Richmond	Games	Sydney
10	Less than 50	9
5	50 to 99	6
2	100 to 149	4
5	150 or more	3

 

[eZyT]

OK, fair enough then. Hard to know exactly - those at the ground would have to comment as the cameras won't capture what is happening.

I didnt analyse it too closely because I got so excited and then so bored, I tipped in about 6 bunds before quarter time, and the lady in the bar was so bored and excited, she seemed to be pouring doubles.

However, it seemed to me a tango involving 2 men.

Yes, Mills was playing goalkeeper. He was regularly standing alone in our 50.

But, We kept *smile* kicking it to him. Possibly the easiest 10 coaches votes ever earned.

all it would have taken was a shorter kick to the bloke in front of him, hold up a little, and some harder running to get a couple of blokes behind him and work an angle.

either that, or tell dusty to play to an offside rule. If Dusty had of stayed deeper than Mills, creating several dozen 1:1's were the ball would land 20 metres away from them, Dusty would have kicked 1.8 and 2 OOB

I dont think our forwards seemed to work as hard as usual and we played dumb. Danny Rioli being disoriented and slow, The Captain being a bit disengaged, Lynchy post surgery, Dusty asleep until 3/4 time and George forgetting to pack his chaos, didnt seem to assist our cause

but that's a simplistic take because I was bored and pissed. Im sure there was a bit going on at stoppages too. Either Marlion is very defensively minded or Hardwick was paying a hard tag, which is highly unusual

what was clear from the very first minute was we were in complete control of the result. I had zero loss anxiety at any stage of the game.

The Draw has been very kind to us. we got 4 points and this week, Shaw will pull the same *smile* and give us a chance to work it out, and get another 4 points.

Then we play Giants on the moon, Dion and Nank will be huge INS in the zero gravity, and another 4 pts.

 

[Quickdraw]

In which of the classics did someone say 'play on'? Wuthering Heignts? Hamlet? One of Hemingway's lesser works perhaps?

The Castle?

 

[tigertim]

In which of the classics did someone say 'play on'? Wuthering Heignts? Hamlet? One of Hemingway's lesser works perhaps?

I suspect your assertion to be fake news.

It's well known that, in The Taming of the Shrew, there's a brief reference to De Goey's off-season hijinx, and Richard Lounder is mentioned twice in separate works by Jane Austen, but 'play on' ... I very much doubt it.

Shakespeares 12th night. “If music be the food of love, play on”. Or it might have been Rayzor Ray “If you step over the mark, play on”. Not sure.

 

[Ridley]

You can't blame Longmire for flooding his backline. His goal is to win the game. Dimma should be more concerned that with extra numbers around the ball we weren't able to pick our way through and force their extra defenders out instead we just bombed blindly.

That's fair enough but it's also fair enough that he cops the blame for the rubbish spectacle that the game became.

Horse can't have it both ways. Put 18 players in the back line if you want (just don't *smile* lie to us and tell us that you didn't do it when we all have eyes) but be prepared to cop the criticism for the horrendous spectacle that it causes.

 

[eZyT]

That's fair enough but it's also fair enough that he cops the blame for the rubbish spectacle that the game became.

Horse can't have it both ways. Put 18 players in the back line if you want (just don't *smile* lie to us and tell us that you didn't do it when we all have eyes) but be prepared to cop the criticism for the horrendous spectacle that it causes.

agree. Horse gone peak sook and acting like the big swinging *smile* in town.

 

[zippadeee]

Longmire can spend the next 10 years trying to rebulid the rabble they have become.
Its not our fault, Nick Newman, Gary Rohan, Lewis Jetta, Zac Jones and Hannebury were all flushed out because of poor decisions to recruit 2 players.
Why is Reid on big money??
Who came up with the idea Tippett was a million dollar player??
Long dark days ahead for the featherless swannies.
Back to the glory years of the early 90's.
Cheer cheer the red and the white.

 

[Gazmatron]

In defence of longmire (and balanced footy)...
The match was crap and sydney didnt try and win it.
But the swans have changed gamestyle this year, with a lot of fast handball runs and corridor attacks. In the first half they broke through a number of times.
It could have been an entertaining match.
But after losing Kennedy and the rain they stopped and the defense only was set up.

If we assess the swans we see they have no key forwards (blakely at 19 is a flake and thinks he is a tall rioli), key backs of Rampe and Robbie Fox (soon to be delisted) are both shorter than Caddy.
The ruck is a 7 gamer who has Pattison's height and Gus' footy IQ.
They have 3 mids, and 1 went off injured.
In short they are a short *smile* team with holes across the park.
(We had a lot of outs but still had 2 key forwards, key backs and star mids. An older stronger team.)
Forget the talk about the games played. Their structure is blown away.

He coached so that it wasnt a blowout against the premiers and it was a rotten game.
But he coaches to win in the other games.

Pretty well nailed it IMO. The thing that surprised me was the number of balls in the wet that went over the pack and there were no RFC players in sight resulting in easy clearance. Also there have been several games where what worked last year is not working now. To me there are two options. First if there is nothing wrong with the game plan you have to restructure the players or you go to a more precise entry into the forward line. The big question is whether we have the personnel skilled of foot to do that

 

[zippadeee]

Pretty well nailed it IMO. The thing that surprised me was the number of balls in the wet that went over the pack and there were no RFC players in sight resulting in easy clearance. Also there have been several games where what worked last year is not working now. To me there are two options. First if there is nothing wrong with the game plan you have to restructure the players or you go to a more precise entry into the forward line. The big question is whether we have the personnel skilled of foot to do that

Pickett won't play this week.
He is going to NASA to help them launch the new satellite.
I've lost count how many of his kicks regardless long or short hit the clouds.
He is a massive issue regarding the way we want to play

 

[tigerlove]

You can't blame Longmire for flooding his backline. His goal is to win the game. Dimma should be more concerned that with extra numbers around the ball we weren't able to pick our way through and force their extra defenders out instead we just bombed blindly.

I thought Swans had zero chance of winning the game. They didn't look like scoring for most of the match. That game style is why they've lost their last 3 and amassed a measly 108 points in total and sitting 17th on the ladder. We fielded the weakest side we've had in a very long time. Sydney weren't strong either but what sort of an inspiration is his game plan to his young brigade? Tigers have their issues but that's nothing compared to what the Swans look like they're going to endure if Horse keeps on coaching that way.

 

[tigerdell]

I,m telling you that Horse had an awful gameplan the last 2 years, like most coaches he wasnt picking up on the Richmond boogie.
But the bombers, saints and swans all do now.

Fast ball movement. Straight running it up through the guts. Run in waves.

But it takes sides time to cement it right.
Swans tried it say 5 times in the first half

 

[tigerdell]

All clubs flood, since the turn of the century young man.

What is a flood ?
When its 12 players behind the ball?
Or 16?
Send 1 back in defence, send a forward up into the stoppage, get numbers brhind and slingshot.

Its churlish to blame the other team when its a matter of degrees.

 

[tigerlove]

I,m telling you that Horse had an awful gameplan the last 2 years, like most coaches he wasnt picking up on the Richmond boogie.
But the bombers, saints and swans all do now.

Fast ball movement. Straight running it up through the guts. Run in waves.

But it takes sides time to cement it right.
Swans tried it say 5 times in the first half

Personally I didn't think Swans game style was anything like Bombers and Saints. The only sign of attacking footy I saw was with about 2 minutes to go in the match. It was bizarre really. Didn't Melbourne once get fined for tanking?

 

[tigerlove]

All clubs flood, since the turn of the century young man.

What is a flood ?
When its 12 players behind the ball?
Or 16?
Send 1 back in defence, send a forward up into the stoppage, get numbers brhind and slingshot.

Its churlish to blame the other team when its a matter of degrees.

Floods recede, ebb and flow. This wasn't a flood, it was a permanent fixture. They need to invent a new name for this.

 

[Quickdraw]

Floods recede, ebb and flow. This wasn't a flood, it was a permanent fixture. They need to invent a new name for this.

Swans built a dam.

 

[Mycotchinrules]

Swans built a dam.

A Longmire quagmire - The Quangmire

 

[zippadeee]

Its on now. The greatest clash
Channel 504
Nail biter.
Edge of the seat.
Good if your struggling with sleep

 

[The_Celebrant]

Its churlish to blame the other team

Disagree. To blame the other team is equal parts fun and therapeutic.