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Dustin Martin

There's a fundamental difference between being a midfielder with a licence to go forward when the opportunity presents and being a player who decides if they play midfield or forward.
 
I'd be pretty confident Leigh Matthews never played anywhere without the coach putting his magnet on the board there first.
I think you'd be surprised. He would absolutely have had license to move forward and back to mid as he saw fit. (I've had older Tiger fans tell me he usually went forward when he was sick of KB and Barry Cable getting leather poisoning.)
 
He would absolutely have had license to move forward and back to mid as he saw fit.

No issue there, my issue is in the player deciding their core position.

If Dustin is playing as a midfielder who can head forward when he see the chance, great.

But if he is deciding doing that or if he is a forward who can drift into the middle then it's wrong. At the moment it seems he is doing the latter and that's poor coaching.
 
No issue there, my issue is in the player deciding their core position.

If Dustin is playing as a midfielder who can head forward when he see the chance, great.

But if he is deciding doing that or if he is a forward who can drift into the middle then it's wrong. At the moment it seems he is doing the latter and that's poor coaching.
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, it looks Dimma has decided he's a forward mainly for now. That might change. I agree, I'd like him to spend more time in the midfield.
 
IIrc Dimma has said in the past that he let the experienced players "work out" strategies at times, because they were in a position to activate things quicker than getting a message to the runner & him getting out to the players. That comes about because of a lot of communication between players & coach over a long time frame. He trusted their skills & "game experience"

Seems like a good thing to me, definitely not a case of "The tail wagging the dog".
 
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After a less than certain couple of seasons from the Champ, I really hope Dusty plays well this week & sets up his year.
We'll sure need his best current output to help us win.
 
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IIrc Dimma has said in the past that he let the experienced players "work out" strategies at times, because they were in a position to activate things quicker than getting a message to the runner & him getting out to the players. That comes about because of a lot of communication between players & coach over a long time frame. He trusted their skills & "game experience"

Seems like a good thing to me, definitely not a case of "The tail wagging the dog".
David Parkin has said the 1995 Carlton side coached itself. They lost two games mid-season to lowly sides, beat everyone else and upgraded to the presidential suites for the end of season trip.
 
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David Parkin has said the 1995 Carlton side coached itself. They lost two games mid-season to lowly sides, beat everyone else and upgraded to the presidential suites for the end of season trip.
Parkin spoke at a coaching forum and described the 1995 side in terms of Total Quality Management. The players took responsibility for a lot of the team strategy, as well as the responsibility of solving problems as they arose. He said that he wished he could start his coaching career all over again.
 
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If Dusty doesn't become 85% of what he was, we can't win.

In Duz we trust.
 
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Parkin spoke at a coaching forum and described the 1995 side in terms of Total Quality Management. The players took responsibility for a lot of the team strategy, as well as the responsibility of solving problems as they arose. He said that he wished he could start his coaching career all over again.
Sounds a bit like the Geelong 2011 team
 
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Reckon we could take this further, 2021 Grand Final in Perth doesn't really count; 2020 ditto and only playing Geelong; 2019 GWS no opposition; 2018 didn't beat the best side; 2017 Snowy off the tram could coach a flag with Dustin Martin playing like that; 2016 Questionable umpiring.

I'm pretty confident it will turn out that no-one has ever coached a flag ever.
 
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Reckon we could take this further, 2021 Grand Final in Perth doesn't really count; 2020 ditto and only playing Geelong; 2019 GWS no opposition; 2018 didn't beat the best side; 2017 Snowy off the tram could coach a flag with Dustin Martin playing like that; 2016 Questionable umpiring.

I'm pretty confident it will turn out that no-one has ever coached a flag ever.
Except Ron Barrassi in 1970. And maybe Yabby in '89.