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JR is obviously more suited to a mobile role in DH opinion, we have TV who they see as a tall fwd option and JR and BG as mobile bigs.... as long as 2 of the 3 stay inside the 50 arc we can have a marking option further up the ground...this allows for more fwd 50 entries and to get the ball in quicker with less possessions.
A mobile and stronger JR makes us a more flexible, less predictable are more potent fwd line
A mobile and stronger JR makes us a more flexible, less predictable are more potent fwd line
Tango said:
I'd also suggest that they either don't think that JR can keep performing at last years level in that position, or the game plan going forward doesn't allow for JR playing a deep FF role.
Wasn't that long ago that some on here said that JR was to slow to play FF, perhaps the coaches agree to some extent and plan on using JR in a more mobile role around the 50m arc. Makes sense to me to a certain degree as his accuracy at distance is good, his ability one on one is excellent and he should certainly get more one on one opportunities in a mobile role at the 50m arc.
think you will find that they will rotate a bitm but JR having more mobility allows us 2 mobile marking options, TV is the stay at home and JR and BG will have the freedom to roam making us less predictable... last year we bombed it long to JR and we got worked out as they dropped a few back...it was only JRs marking ability that kept us in it.
with 2 mobile marking units and a big tall deep we are far more potent and less predictable, u cant double team mobile talls and BG and JR will have more chance being one on one....TV can be the foil...
smart mids with skill will have a field day if they have 3 or 4 options in the fwd line as opposed to last year when we had 1
with 2 mobile marking units and a big tall deep we are far more potent and less predictable, u cant double team mobile talls and BG and JR will have more chance being one on one....TV can be the foil...
smart mids with skill will have a field day if they have 3 or 4 options in the fwd line as opposed to last year when we had 1
I'd like to think Beavis is coaching our kids with an eye on 2012,13 and beyond.
Jack might be the best Full Forward we have this year, but ideally in a year or two we have Griff, Plasma or Post holding down that spot and Jack roams the forward line.
Can you imagine just how hard it would be to man up on our forward line if we could afford to have Jack roaming where ever he pleases in the forward line ?
Jack might be the best Full Forward we have this year, but ideally in a year or two we have Griff, Plasma or Post holding down that spot and Jack roams the forward line.
Can you imagine just how hard it would be to man up on our forward line if we could afford to have Jack roaming where ever he pleases in the forward line ?
Playing Jaaaack at FF makes us far to predictable and one dimensional, he had a standout year for us but you can guarantee clubs will drop a floater over the top every time we go forward if he's stuck at FF all year. He'll end up with 40/ 50 goals and the rest of the club will kick dribbles.TigerFurious said:
Jaaacks right up there with the best mids for footy smarts in controlling play and setting up structures etc. Getting Jaaack a bit more aerobicly fit and mobile with his talent, backed up with Griff and High Def as more conventional KPPF with crummers makes us extremely versatile and much more dangerous.
Opposition coaches won't be able to squat on one player to shut us down, our mids will have plenty of one on one or solo options to choose from.
Once the club gets this sort of setup properly structured in you could easily expect three key options like say Jaaack, Griff and High Def to each get probably 30 plus goals per season and a grouping of smalls getting 15 plus. Far better scenario to have multiple scoring options each game then just sitting it on Jaaacks head and praying.
Reckon it's a ripper decision by our coaching dept.
Fair points TM,
As much as I do love Jack it shouldn’t be forgotten that our forward line didn’t work very well last year as a team. We were last in the AFL for scoring and we were 15th for inside 50s.
Clearly others need to step up, relying on kicking the ball 20-30 times a game to a one player is not going to work.
As much as I do love Jack it shouldn’t be forgotten that our forward line didn’t work very well last year as a team. We were last in the AFL for scoring and we were 15th for inside 50s.
Clearly others need to step up, relying on kicking the ball 20-30 times a game to a one player is not going to work.
Because 80 goal Coleman medalists at 21years old are as rare as hens teeth. Why would you want to mess with that?rosy23 said:
After decades, we finally get the best player in the comp at a specific position, and what do we do? We decide to slim him down and move him to another spot.
evo said:
How many of those goals were kicked from him playing in the FF position? He wasn't exactly tied there like Frawley tried with a beefed up Richo. I don't understand bagging things before they're even tried. Last year was great for Jack but that doesn't mean the same role year after year would have the same results. Maybe the move will be a real success team wise. Maybe it will be abandoned if it's not successful. Time will tell.
The doubt with JR moving up the ground is that they can slim him down all they want but he is may simply be too slow. His reading of the play, body positioning and general nous are outstanding so would seem to me that he is better suited closer to goal. This doesn't necesary preclude creating more avenues to goal which many seem to suggest.
evo said:
I'm not sure that Jack is the best Full Forward in the comp. One of the main reasons he won the Coleman last year was because Fev, Brown, Bradshaw, Buddy and his cousin all suffered from injury last season. If all of these guys were 100% fit and firing Jack may struggle to win the Coleman again.
jb03 said:
Well said. I don't understand why you'd take a forward who's biggest strength is his marking and move him up the ground where his greatest weakness - his lack of pace can be exposed?
SAF said:
Three of those guys are getting on in age and are becoming more and more injury prone so injury is going to be par for the course for them. It's unfair to compare Jack to Bradshaw or Fev of a few years back. Fev is a nutcase and I can't see that getting better, meaning he will be hot and cold. Nick is rarely going to give the Coleman a run because he plays up the ground for the most part. 80 goals is going to push the Coleman in most years in modern footy and Jack showed enough consistency through the year to do it. As a full forward I would put him ahead of all of those guys except possibly Buddy and he proved it last year. If he played full forward I would expect him to battle it out with Buddy for the Coleman this year but looks like he won't get a crack at it if he is more up the ground.
