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It appears he was instructed to kneel or he wouldn't be part of the team, and he chose the latter.
Yeah, they were given several options - take a knee or raise a fist, or both, or stand to attention. It's not a great look and what prompted the order for everyone to kneel.
Yeah that would be a factor in South Africa's unique perspective on the subject.
What is BLM? A group? Or simply a message?
Is it only saying I stand or kneel against racism?
This really belongs on the politics board since BLM is a political movement. Support for BLM implies support for e.g. abolition of police. These things are inextricably intertwined.
One can stand against racism without aligning with a specific political campaign, and an American one at that.
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I think it's a bit heavy handed personally. Players aren't told to show respect to their country's national anthem in a specific way, why should they be instructed to show their respect for BLM in a specific way?
And a raised fist is the sign of Black Power, isn't it "cultural misappropriation" for white people to do it?
And a raised fist is the sign of Black Power, isn't it "cultural misappropriation" for white people to do it?
"Defund the police" doesn't mean abolish them. It means stop giving them military weapons.
As always Lee, I agree.
forcing players on a sporting team to take part on any sort of political action demeans the gesture when it is done voluntarily.
"Abolish" is frequently used by its supporters in place of "defund". It's a difficult word to misinterpet. Here is one of the BLM founders earlier this year.
(Said founder has resigned after controversy over a multi-million dollar real estate buying spree.)
It's right there in the link to the BLM website - Trump this, Republicans that. It's overtly political. I see it as justification for disenchanted blacks to riot, loot, burn and sometimes kill. I would never support that and you'd have to shoot me before I kneel in support of that.
Apparently de Kock sees it as a throwaway gesture that doesn't mean anything. He opposes racism in the way he conducts himself daily. Which is far more practical and useful than any virtue-signalling gesture, however well-intentioned.
I don't understand why they're kneeling before every match, either. It's like they're serving chronic penance for something. Once each at the start of the tournament is enough.
As for Tony Armstrong who was half an AFL footballer labelling a man who has led his nation "racist" based on nothing but assumption - apologise please before the ABC is defending another defamation action with taxpayers' money.
Good statement by QDC. Ridiculous that they find out the directive on the way to the game. His reaction shouldn't be taken as anything more than disappointment at the process itself and the lack of planning. Sounds like discussion and engagement doesn't happen much in Sth African cricket.
Kneeling should simply be a supportive statement against racism. Not as support for a quasi political movement with potentially more extended intentions.
I support the kneeling as a "stand" against racism.
Kneeling should simply be a supportive statement against racism. Not as support for a quasi political movement with potentially more extended intentions.
I support the kneeling as a "stand" against racism.
There does come a point where these things such as kneeling lose the power of their meaning.
