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The latter is the way I tend to look at it. The fact that they are lamenting, larger family group settings (same as VIC 2nd wave), lower income workers (same as VIC 2nd wave) and food processing type jobs (same as VIC 2nd wave), then there are clearly similar links to this outbreak in NSW and that of our 2nd wave when we were locked down for 4 months.
Its not a question of who has been lucky and who hasn't, but understanding the similarities.
VICs 2nd wave last year and the current outbreak in NSW are incredibly similar. Looking at the responses, the NSW govt have done the exact same thing as the VIC govt did last year, expect the VIC govt took responsibility and sorted it out, the NSW govt throws a tantrum and demands that other states give them their vaccines, despite it being on tape clear as day, that their premier was not willing to do the same just 6 weeks ago. Hypocrisy in its finest.
The only outbreak their strategy has failed is the delta variant outbreak. And I imagine residents of Syd got complacent as they had managed every previous outbreak successfully with the same approach. They under estimated this strain and it’s been a costly mistake.
There are differences between this outbreak, and thats what I'm saying. Its convenient to say its the Delta strain, thats what they are saying, but they are hardly going to say, sorry we *smile* up.
What communities have their previous outbreaks occurred in? The major one was the Northern Beaches (a very different demographic to SW Sydney etc).
You are as bad as those that you comment on that just go the negative. You have bought the spin of the NSW govt but gave very little similar compassion and allowance to the VIC govt.
I suspect what time will show is that different level of lockdowns work within different demographics of a city, but that a one size fits all policy does not work.
Hey Brodders - great graphic - are you able to send through the website link - interested in the source
They should have looked at what Victoria did when we had the Delta outbreak & learned from it. NOT try to be holier than thou & think they knew everything, it was clearly spelled out that the Delta variety was far more virulent than previous Covid strains. Now NSW authorities are saying that they didn't know that was the case.
Well really, just open your eyes & ears to see what happened earlier in this year in Victoria.
Dumb arrogance by them imo.
yeah i copped a similar dissuasion attempt.
super weird.
i said 'a little less conversation, a little more action please nurse. Just stick her in?'
im actually perplexed by this. I think theres enough AZ supply to do greater sydney twice,
and they're appealing for Pfizer.
its like your dying of thirst in a desert, with only a Pepsi, and you wait for a Coke.
roman empire stuff
Twitter is not a reputable news source. Stop filling your head with nonsense.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12...equest-for-new-hotel-quarantine-prog/12952512
What they say (or what you or I say) is irrelevant. All that really matters are results/outcomes. You and others have declared it luck. Lets hope they get lucky and bring it back to 0. I'm sure we are all hoping for that.
I've never said its all related to luck, thats a fallacy. They did deal well with the previous outbreaks, however there appears to be some elements of luck as to what populations became infected. Even you (not sitting on your fence) should be able to see that the demographics of the current outbreak are far more similar to that of vics wave 2 last year than any of the other outbreaks in Sydney.
Action is certainly important, all I'm saying is that luck as to which parts of the population demographic become infected is certainly a part of it all too.
As I said, I suspect there will be a couple of theories over what type of lockdown works, but it will be dependent on which population demographic becomes infected.
Ie. highly mobile, lower income and higher proportion of multi age family dwellings = HARD lockdown. Lower mobility, higher income (higher proportion of WFH) etc may be better with a less stringent lockdown.
The NSW government has failed to see the difference and have gone with a one size fits all response and as expected its proven to be far from sufficient to control the virus. Victoria has showed TWICE now that you can control Delta (regardless of what Gladys and Hazzard try to make you believe with their spin), but in order to do that you need to go hard and fast. Dwell for just a few days and it gets beyond you. They failed to recognise that Delta is quicker, and was in a far higher risk demographic of the population in terms of virus spread and we are now where we are.
BTW luck won't bring them back to 0. ACTION will, and that means going harder than they are going with their lockdown. Today there were still more than 50 cases outside of those 5 LGA's that they have said are the epicentre. This will spread very quickly if they don't change their rhetoric which seems to be to blame those LGA's and everyone else is fine. Its a dangerous rhetoric that may well result in spread elsewhere in the city going forwards.
Jeez don’t go all soft. One kind word for NSW in about 400 posts in this thread.
Was thinking about totalitarian regimes myself today when I saw those aholes protesting…
Be interesting if those protesters today had their Medicare cards suspended when they end up in the ICU.
Sure sounds brutal but deliberately spreading a serious disease is far worse.
Sure sounds brutal but deliberately spreading a serious disease is far worse.
This is such a good table. Probably done a little while ago as the current NSW breach cases would be much higher that this now.
In many ways this brings into context the hysteria of the security guards breaches last year. The fact is that breaches are inevitable but it has always been about what happens afterwards. That was the real failure in Victoria last year, the contact tracing and the failures in aged care.
