Coronavirus grand final.

[Baloo]

Still waiting to here a single fact that this is just a a bad flu?

Influenza, a bug we know a lot about and are quick to develop vaccines for, has a 1st world mortality rate of about 0.1%

This thing is far worse and we still know sweet FA about it.

So, facts please. Any at all?

 

[AngryAnt]

Shame on us! Shame on every media organisation!

The WHO is a puppet regime (think IOC) and (to be honest) this is the most blatant form of FAKE news you have seen in 20years!!!

Please do some basic research.

Think normal influenza and then ask yourself why the panic??

Can you believe - people are actually fighting for toilet paper (made in Australia and readily re-supplied!!!) LOL!!! Fair dinkum this is Darwinism!!!

If the idiots were buying water, tinned food, medicines I would tolerate it - but toilet paper???? BWAAAAAA HA HA (you idiots!!!)

Suggest getting in touch with the T-Rump, you are on the same wavelength and to be honest he might put you in charge of the Center for Disease Control. You are just the kind of man we need in these chaotic times.

 

[eZyT]

I'd go to the grand final if the tigers were in it even if cotchinvideo-19 had a death rate of 100%

wouldn't be much of an army if we weren't prepared to die.

Id just eat heaps of Nutella. hazelnuts have an active ingredient, Ferrero rocherium, which prevents viruses penetrating your dna, and Nutella is the purest known form of hazelnuts.

that's why no North American Indians ever got cotchinvideo-19, they ate heaps of Nutella.

 

[DavidSSS]

I have to say, the panic around this is bordering on ridiculous.

Yes, it is worse than the 'flu, or at least the strains of the 'flu we've had for the last 100 or so years. But the rate of infection is not particularly high and both the 'flu and COVID-19 are corona-virii.

There is good reason to take precautions, there are good reasons for quarantine. The modelling of how the virus might spread will be wildly inaccurate, but are the best info we have to hand and will assist planning so should be used.

But panic? The media are panicking because it sells papers, or the digital equivalent, you just have to take that into account when looking at the coverage.

DS

 

[AngryAnt]

I have to say, the panic around this is bordering on ridiculous.

Yes, it is worse than the 'flu, or at least the strains of the 'flu we've had for the last 100 or so years. But the rate of infection is not particularly high and both the 'flu and COVID-19 are corona-virii.

There is good reason to take precautions, there are good reasons for quarantine. The modelling of how the virus might spread will be wildly inaccurate, but are the best info we have to hand and will assist planning so should be used.

But panic? The media are panicking because it sells papers, or the digital equivalent, you just have to take that into account when looking at the coverage.

DS

MERS and SARS are coronaviruses but I don't believe the flu is, could be wrong though.

Edit. Common cold is a coronavirus, so there you go.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

So, facts please. Any at all?

Now is a bad time to get sick. Do your best to avoid it.

 

[Willo]

Newsroom

Queensland Health newsroom

www.health.qld.gov.au

This has a good explanation for those that want a blt more information. All in laymans terms so it's easy to understand

 

[Baloo]

Now is a bad time to get sick. Do your best to avoid it.

Even worse time if you're over 50, male and have a pre-existing respitory condition

 

[TigerMasochist]

MERS and SARS are coronaviruses but I don't believe the flu is, could be wrong though.

Edit. Common cold is a coronavirus, so there you go.

So Cold, Flu, Mers, Sars, Coroner are all basically linked n slight upgrades on one another, all with similar effects n most dangerous for the aged n infirm. They'll invent a bug spray for Coroner eventually n once it's done a lap or three around the world most people will build some basic immunity to the effects of the virus. Excepting of course the aged n infirm who are always the worst affected by these viruses.

 

[RoarEmotion]

Baloo.

I will assume it was a polite question.

What FACTS do you have?

3 persons dead in Australia (all elderly Asians who were infected overseas)

Hyperbole and headlines don't make a CRISIS!

But - damn - let's not challenge the media model (bwaaaaaaa ha ha)

I’m not a medical expert but seems two to three time’s more contagious than the flu and four to twenty times more deadly. Seems about a year for a vaccine everything going well.

How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?

Research so far indicates that COVID-19 spreads more easily and has a higher death rate than the flu.

www.livescience.com

Without doubt whether or not the reaction is logical it will have an effect and large gatherings being cancelled is definitely something that could happen.

Italy bans fans from sporting events over coronavirus outbreak

MILAN — All sporting events in Italy will take place without fans present for at least the next month due to the virus outbreak in the country, the Italian government announced on Wednesday. That w…

nypost.com

I’ve discussed with friends that road tolls will far outweigh this.

Coronavirus: Death toll pales in comparison to China's daily road deaths

More than 700 lives are claimed in car accidents every day in China.

www.nzherald.co.nz

This Won’t change the reaction to fear of the unknown. Worthy of discussion .

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

I’ve discussed with friends that road tolls will far outweigh this.

That’s the old ‘more likely to be hit by lightning than attacked by a shark’ rationalisation kicking in. No comfort when you’re actually in the hot seat. And you may well be wrong.

There is no way known I’ll be attending in 10 days’ time, but each to their own.

 

[Sir]

Still waiting to here a single fact that this is just a a bad flu?

Influenza, a bug we know a lot about and are quick to develop vaccines for, has a 1st world mortality rate of about 0.1%

This thing is far worse and we still know sweet FA about it.

So, facts please. Any at all?

1. Don't eat yellow snow
2. Bears *smile* in the forest

Do you prefer:

"There will be no significant rain in Australia until April"
"The science of Climate Change is undisputed"

BWAAAAAAAA HA HA

I see that others have already provided sufficient FACTS and various links/articles (thank you). As someone that already has some staff quarantined (indeed diagnosed with COVAC-19) I'm quite comfortable (surrounded by facts) that this is a BAD flu and elderly persons with respiratory issues should be concerned.

The rest of us should calm the %$^&@# down.

Have a great TIGER Day!

 

[Sir]

Still waiting to here a single fact that this is just a a bad flu?

So, facts please. Any at all?

Oh! I forgot:

FACT 1 - here is correctly spelt HEAR

 

[AngryAnt]

1. Don't eat yellow snow
2. Bears **** in the forest

Do you prefer:

"There will be no significant rain in Australia until April"
"The science of Climate Change is undisputed"

BWAAAAAAAA HA HA

I see that others have already provided sufficient FACTS and various links/articles (thank you). As someone that already has some staff quarantined (indeed diagnosed with COVAC-19) I'm quite comfortable (surrounded by facts) that this is a BAD flu and elderly persons with respiratory issues should be concerned.

The rest of us should calm the %$^&@# down.

Have a great TIGER Day!

I don't know whether to be reassured or terrified after reading this

 

[Baloo]

1. Don't eat yellow snow
2. Bears **** in the forest

Do you prefer:

"There will be no significant rain in Australia until April"
"The science of Climate Change is undisputed"

BWAAAAAAAA HA HA

I see that others have already provided sufficient FACTS and various links/articles (thank you). As someone that already has some staff quarantined (indeed diagnosed with COVAC-19) I'm quite comfortable (surrounded by facts) that this is a BAD flu and elderly persons with respiratory issues should be concerned.

The rest of us should calm the %$^&@# down.

Have a great TIGER Day!

So, still can't produce any facts that back your claim it's just a bad flu? Just more ignorant bluster?

 

[AngryAnt]

1. Don't eat yellow snow
2. Bears **** in the forest

Do you prefer:

"There will be no significant rain in Australia until April"
"The science of Climate Change is undisputed"

BWAAAAAAAA HA HA

I see that others have already provided sufficient FACTS and various links/articles (thank you). As someone that already has some staff quarantined (indeed diagnosed with COVAC-19) I'm quite comfortable (surrounded by facts) that this is a BAD flu and elderly persons with respiratory issues should be concerned.

The rest of us should calm the %$^&@# down.

Have a great TIGER Day!

 

[RoarEmotion]

That’s the old ‘more likely to be hit by lightning than attacked by a shark’ rationalisation kicking in. No comfort when you’re actually in the hot seat. And you may well be wrong.

There is no way known I’ll be attending in 10 days’ time, but each to their own.

Sure understand your choice. Estimated 1.4 million global road deaths last year. I really hope I’m right but can’t see this outcome. I don’t think it’s a rationalisation it’s just talking about the risk and not the consequence. Any horrible consequence no one wants to face. For sure in a large public gathering there is a greater chance you catch something. Basically to probably sir’s point the media drives attention To low probability headline gathering issues. I disagree with the contention this isn’t a big issue, because our collective response to it is clearly making it reallly serious.

List of countries by traffic-related death rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Baloo]

Sure understand your choice. Estimated 1.4 million global road deaths last year. I really hope I’m right but can’t see this outcome. I don’t think it’s a rationalisation it’s just talking about the risk and not the consequence. Any horrible consequence no one wants to face. For sure in a large public gathering there is a greater chance you catch something. Basically to probably sir’s point the media drives attention To low probability headline gathering issues. I disagree with the contention this isn’t a big issue, because our collective response to it is clearly making it reallly serious.

List of countries by traffic-related death rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The amount of revenue that is being lost by cancelling events, having major events behind closed doors etc, you don't think these large organisations have the ability to see through "media hype"? You think the F1 decide to have a closed door race because 60 Minutes had a click generating story on COVID-19?

Governments wouldn't be reacting as they are if it was just a bad flu and media hype. Economies are in trouble over this.

 

[AngryAnt]

The whole thing to me shows the brittleness of modern systems. It takes only a relatively small number of people affected by this virus to throw health systems globally into crisis. It shows that if China shuts down towns and factories, supply chains globally are affected within days. It shows our mixed Australian economy is incredibly exposed and vulnerable to even partial shutdowns of things in China. It shows that we as people lose our *smile* and fight over toilet paper in supermarkets because we are selfish, entitled idiots.

 

[RoarEmotion]

The amount of revenue that is being lost by cancelling events, having major events behind closed doors etc, you don't think these large organisations have the ability to see through "media hype"? You think the F1 decide to have a closed door race because 60 Minutes had a click generating story on COVID-19?

Governments wouldn't be reacting as they are if it was just a bad flu and media hype. Economies are in trouble over this.

I didn’t make my point well as I combined separate thoughts together.

Clearly large gatherings of people seems like it will lead to too much death in community as someone who doesn’t get overly effected can spread it to someone at high risk.

Separate thought is that media organisations will drive for ad revenue / sensationalise . I shouldn’t have put that in my other post as implied this is one of those situations.

Third thought is that when everyone reacts the same way it causes issues that wouldn’t exist if we didn’t go into this mode.... Whether it be a run on a bank, an over purchase of toilet paper etc.

To Antman’s point - yes everything is pretty brittle. What would the internet going down do? Simple start is plenty of people can’t read a map and secondly probably don’t even own one.