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Our drafting since 2017 when Clarke took over. You'd give him Balta, Baker, Ross and Pickett as successes (ignoring Higgins although if h'e stayed he would be a success. Everyone else is a fail or a yet to be proven. Perhaps too much positivity is directed toward Clarke for our premierships when he didn't really orchestrate the list.
| 2017 | |||||
| Acquired Via | Player | Age | Height | Weight | Original Club |
| National Draft pick 17 | Jack Higgins | 18yr | 178cm | 76kg | East Malvern/Caulfield Grammar/Oakleigh U18 |
| National Draft pick 20 | Callum Coleman-Jones | 18yr | 201cm | 99kg | Unley/Scotch College (SA)/Sturt |
| National Draft pick 25 | Noah Balta | 17yr | 195cm | 95kg | Doutta Stars/St Bernard's College/Calder U18 |
| National Draft pick 34 (FS) | Patrick Naish | 18yr | 181cm | 69kg | Ivanhoe JFC/Ivanhoe Grammar/Northern U18 |
| National Draft pick 63 | Ben Miller | 18yr | 196cm | 93kg | Kalgoorlie Railways/Subiaco |
| Rookie Draft pick 18 | Liam Baker | 19yr | 176cm | 70kg | Lake Grace-Pingrup/Aquinas College (WA)/West Perth/Subiaco |
| 2018 | |||||
| Acquired Via | Player | Age | Height | Weight | Original Club |
| National Draft pick 20 | Riley Collier-Dawkins | 18yr | 190cm | 91kg | Waverley Blues/Salesian College/Oakleigh U18 |
| National Draft pick 43 | Jack Ross | 18yr | 186cm | 85kg | Oakleigh U18 |
| National Draft pick 58 | Fraser Turner | 17yr | 186cm | 77kg | Clarence |
| National Draft pick 62 | Luke English | 18yr | 183cm | 80kg | Manning JFC/Perth |
| Rookie Draft pick 16 | Jake Aarts | 23yr | 180cm | 76kg | Noble Park/Beaconsfield/Bendigo Gold/Richmond (VFL) |
| Pre-Season Supplemental Selection | Sydney Stack | 18yr | 176cm | 72kg | Northam Federals/Perth |
| Pre-Season Supplemental Selection | Maverick Weller | 26yr | 182cm | 87kg | Burnie/Tasmania U18 |
| Mid-Season Draft pick 13 | Marlion Pickett | 26yr | 183cm | 85kg | Swan Districts (WAAFL)/South Fremantle |
| 2019 | |||||
| Acquired Via | Player | Age | Height | Weight | Original Club |
| National Draft pick 21 | Thomson Dow | 17yr | 182cm | 72kg | Swan Hill/Geelong Grammar/Bendigo U18 |
| National Draft pick 43 | Noah Cumberland | 18yr | 183cm | 79kg | Maroochydore/Brisbane (NEAFL) |
| National Draft pick 44 | Will Martyn | 18yr | 183cm | 73kg | Aspley/Brisbane (NEAFL) |
| National Draft pick 46 | Hugo Ralphsmith | 17yr | 186cm | 70kg | East Brighton/Haileybury College/Sandringham U18 |
| National Draft pick 54 | Bigoa Nyuon | 18yr | 195cm | 87kg | Rowville/Rowville SC/Dandenong U18 |
| 2020 | |||||
| Acquired Via | Player | Age | Height | Weight | Original Club |
| Unregistered Player Selection | Mate Colina | 21yr | 213cm | 111kg | Basketball |
| National Draft pick 40 | Samson Ryan | 19yr | 206cm | 96kg | Sherwood |
| National Draft pick 51 | Maurice Rioli | 18yr | 179cm | 75kg | St Marys/Scotch College |
| Pre-Season Supplemental Selection | Rhyan Mansell | 20yr | 182cm | 75kg | Launceston/Woodville-West Torrens |
| Mid-Season Draft pick 10 | Matthew Parker | 24yr | 187cm | 79kg | Melville/Perth/South Fremantle |
| 2021 | |||||
| Acquired Via | Player | Age | Height | Weight | Original Club |
| National Draft pick 9 | Josh Gibcus | 18yr | 196cm | 87kg | East Point/St Patrick's College/North Ballarat U18 |
| National Draft pick 17 | Tom Brown | 18yr | 186cm | 77kg | Mooroopna/Geelong Grammar/Murray U18 |
| National Draft pick 28 | Tyler Sonsie | 18yr | 181cm | 78kg | Lysterfield JFC/Rowville/Rowville SC/Eastern U18 |
| National Draft pick 29 | Sam Banks | 18yr | 187cm | 71kg | Clarence/Tasmania U18 |
| National Draft pick 30 | Judson Clarke | 17yr | 179cm | 69kg | East Ringwood/Yarra Valley Grammar/Dandenong U18 |
| Mid-Season Draft pick 10 | Jacob Bauer | 19yr | 192cm | 85kg | Inner West/North Adelaide |
| 2022 | |||||
| Acquired Via | Player | Age | Height | Weight | Original Club |
| National Draft pick 49 | Kaleb Smith | 17yr | 180cm | 79kg | Melville JFC/East Fremantle |
| National Draft pick 55 | Steely Green | 18yr | 179cm | 75kg | Brookton-Pingelly/South Fremantle |
| Rookie Draft pick 12 | Seth Campbell | 17yr | 182cm | 73kg | North Launceston/Burnie/Tasmania U18 |
| Rookie Draft pick 26 | Tylar Young | 24yr | 196cm | 92kg | North Albury/Frankston |
| Pre-Season Supplemental Selection | Kaelan Bradtke | 21yr | 195cm | 97kg | Corowa-Rutherglen/Sydney (NEAFL) |
| Mid-Season Draft pick 4 | Matthew Coulthard | 21yr | 176cm | 69kg | Port Noarlunga/Glenelg |
| Mid-Season Draft pick 13 | James Trezise | 20yr | 188cm | 76kg | Tooradin-Dalmore/Richmond (VFL) |
| 2023 | |||||
| Acquired Via | Player | Age | Height | Weight | Original Club |
| Delisted Free Agent | Sam Naismith | 31yr | 205cm | 104kg | Gunnedah/North Shore (NSW)/Sydney (NEAFL) |
| Unregistered Player Selection | Oliver Hayes-Brown | 23yr | 208cm | 114kg | Basketball |
| National Draft pick 40 | Kane McAuliffe | 18yr | 187cm | 86kg | Central Augusta/Prince Alfred College/North Adelaide |
| National Draft pick 43 | Liam Fawcett | 18yr | 197cm | 89kg | Pooraka/Trinity College (SA)/Central District |
| Pre-Season Supplemental Selection | Mykelti Lefau |
no.
Considering the early signs, and the fact that we only had junk picks, 22 and 23 are looking positive.
Smith Campbell Young Coulthard Tresize
McKauliffe
Early days of course, but positive signs
Maybe there is something to Zipps sell all the first round picks theory...
Tony Braxton-Hicks
There are no stupid ideas, just stupid people
Then there's the Geelong selection strategy.Maybe there is something to Zipps sell all the first round picks theory...
There was an article i read only the other day (can’t remember where) that praised his work at the sainters
It really depends what you grade a success.
I've just built the data of draftees from 2000-2010 to get a gauge over average games played per pick range (national draft only).
1-3 - Av games = 220, median = 218
4-5 - Av games = 177, median = 153
6-10 - Av games = 135, median = 123
11-20 - Av games = 129, median = 100
21-30 - Av games = 92, median = 70
31-50 - Av games = 85, median = 45
51+ - Av games = 47, median = 17
As you'd expect the further the pick falls the greater the gap between the average and the median, as those that play large numbers of games are more outliers than the norm that you'd find with Top 20 picks, so on that basis, its important to take a look at the players in isolation. I won't look at the PSD picks as they weren't necessarily picked by Clarke.
2017
Higgins - Boom - Regardless of who he is playing for, as a pick he will play a lot of games
CCJ - Bust - Probably
Balta - Boom
Naish - Bust
Miller - Boom - already past the median games played
Baker - Boom
2018
RCD - Bust
Ross - Boom
Turner - Bust
English - Bust
Aarts - Boom
Pickett - Boom
2019
Dow - Bust
Cumberland - Juries out but should go past the median of 45 games
Martyn - Bust
Ralph-Smith - Boom - Based on likelihood to go past median games
Nyoun - Probably a bust but wouldn't take a lot to go past the median
The other drafts are too new to really tell, but if we are looking for replacements for premiership star players with lowly picks then we are mistaken, based off average games and particularly median games, those picks weren't horrific. Didn't smash them out of the park either but not as bad as some will make them out as.
Wonder what the hand over looks like?
Lots of I.P walking out the door. Hopefully some coming in but he’s probably got a bit of catching up to do as he’s been out of the system for 12 months from what I understand
Lots of I.P walking out the door. Hopefully some coming in but he’s probably got a bit of catching up to do as he’s been out of the system for 12 months from what I understand
