Beck since 1996

[Rosy]

Thanks Boss, that's interetsing.
If we weeded through all the *smile* posted on this board we'd find a good history lesson of the RFC hidden in there somewhere.

 

[mightytiges]

Lambert left as he was disillusioned with the club. He wanted to go to carlton but a suitable trade could not be offered. Incidentally carlton offered us there captain, Brett Ratten, who was a back pocket battler in those days and we refused. He ended up going in teh preseason draft and picked up by Brisbane, we got nothing for him which was very disappointing.

Boss, I seem to remember something (maybe it was a rumour, can't remember) about the club then thinking that with Knighter, Freezer and Lambert our midfield stocks were pretty good and we could afford to offload one of them to get another type of player. Any truth in that?

 

[The Boss]

No definately not true MT. He left at the end of 1993 and in that Draft we picked up Broderick, Gale and Dundas in the trade for Hogg. He didn't see any future at the club and his footy was stale at Richmond and he needed a change. Ironically 2 years later we played in the prelim final (& as Harry will remind you got thrashed by Geelong!!!).

 

[Harry]

No definately not true MT. He left at the end of 1993 and in that Draft we picked up Broderick, Gale and Dundas in the trade for Hogg. He didn't see any future at the club and his footy was stale at Richmond and he needed a change. Ironically 2 years later we played in the prelim final (& as Harry will remind you got thrashed by Geelong!!!).

it seems you can't post without mentioning my name - I feel so honoured. 8)

 

[Rampaging_Richo]

I think on a mathematical POV, I proved my point that Beck has done a crap job. I tried to disregard the number at which they were taken and if they were a trade, national or preseason, only worried about there output for the RFC.

On Lambert, the story I heard was that he wanted to go to Geelong , they offered up a young half back named Michael Mansfield which we declined. Thus Lambert went to Brissie for free

 

[the claw]

I make Becks strike rate 28% The history to be learnt is clean out all the dead wood 12 to 15 players 1recruiting manager 1 coach find a coach who can nurture kids Go to the bottom of the ladder and draft the best kids available over the next 3 to 5 years if we do this we can build anew dynasty out of Becks ruins

 

[johnson2richo2003]

i am a supporter of putting the age up to around 19 or maybe 20 before you can be picked up by a club.
atm its to much of a lottery with clubs spending money on young players who turnout to be not quite up to it as the years go on.[pettifer perfect example].
and the visa versa happens as well.a kid is ignored in the draft and is lost in the system and ends up on the scrap heap.
at least at the age of 19-20 clubs will more or less have a much better idea of what they are getting.

 

[TigerFury]

I'll count 'success' as being able to hold a regular senior game.

1996
Darren Gaspar Y
Pat Steinfort N
Mark Chaffey Y
Matthew Manfield N
Steven McKee Y *
Jason Baldwin N
Brent Frewen N
Daniel Donati N
Trent Nichols Y **

(4/5)

1997
Brett Evans N
Brad Ottens Y
Lionel Proctor N
Paul Greenham N
Andrew Kellaway Y
Aaron James N
John Rombotis N
Ashley Blurton N
Justin Plapp N
Jason Ramsey N

2/8

1998
James White N
Marc Dragicevic Y ***
Matthew Greig N
Ray Hall Y
Craig Biddiscombe N
Rory Hilton Y
Greg Tivendale Y

4/3

1999
Clay Sampson N
Aaron Fiora Y
Ezra Poyas N
Scott Homewood BIG FAT NO!!!
Andrew Mills N
Ty Zantuck Y
Leon Cameron Y

3/4

2000
Kayne Pettifer N ****
Mark Coughlan Y
Chris Hyde N
Andrew J. Krakouer Y
Chris Newman Y
Steven Sziller Y
Ben Haynes N
Royce Vardy N

4/4

2001
David Rodan Y
Adam L. Houlihan Y
Chris Hyde N (Can lightning strike twice?)
Martin McGrath N
Paul Hudson N
Greg Stafford Y
Craig Ednie N

3/4

2002
Jay Schulz N
Tim Fleming Y
Bill Nicholls N
Daniel Sipthorp N
Kane Johnson Y
Justin Blumfield Y ***

2/3

* Playing for another club
** Was mature when we got him back and played regularly when on the lest. Still was crap though!
*** Was a regular before injury cut him down.
**** Is getting a senior game but isn't really commanding it!

Not really fair on Schulz and Sipthorpe at this stage. Still are only young!

According to my calculations, this is a 42% success rate (23/54)

 

[hutstar]

1996
Darren Gaspar Y
Pat Steinfort N
Mark Chaffey Y
Matthew Manfield N
Steven McKee N
Jason Baldwin N
Brent Frewen N
Daniel Donati N
Trent Nichols Y

1997
Brett Evans N
Brad Ottens Y
Lionel Proctor N
Paul Greenham N
Andrew Kellaway Y
Aaron James N
John Rombotis N
Ashley Blurton N
Justin Plapp N
Jason Ramsey N

1998
James White N
Marc Dragicevic ?
Matthew Greig N
Ray Hall Y
Craig Biddiscombe ?
Rory Hilton Y
Greg Tivendale Y

1999
Clay Sampson N
Aaron Fiora Y
Ezra Poyas N
Scott Homewood N
Andrew Mills ?
Ty Zantuck Y
Leon Cameron Y

2000
Kayne Pettifer ?
Mark Coughlan Y
Chris Hyde ?
Andrew J. Krakouer ?
Chris Newman Y
Steven Sziller Y
Ben Haynes N
Royce Vardy ?

2001
David Rodan Y
Adam L. Houlihan N
Chris Hyde ?
Martin McGrath ?
Paul Hudson N
Greg Stafford Y
Craig Ednie N

2002
Jay Schulz ?
Tim Fleming N
Bill Nicholls N
Daniel Sipthorp ?

 

[Koalalill]

1996
Darren Gaspar - Y
Pat Steinfort - N for knees ;D
Mark Chaffey - Y
Matthew Manfield -N
Steven McKee - N for RFC - Y maybe for the Pies
Jason Baldwin- N
Brent Frewen - N who
Daniel Donati - N
Trent Nichols - U

1997
Brett Evans - Y because he gave what we need "MONGREL"
Brad Ottens - Y
Lionel Proctor - N
Paul Greenham - N what a waste of a pick
Andrew Kellaway - Y
Aaron James - N - though should hve been different if he didn't do his knee
John Rombotis - N one the greatest DUDs ever
Ashley Blurton - N - for walkabout
Justin Plapp - N - a could have been should have been maybe never was
Jason Ramsey - N

1998
James White - N :-\
Marc Dragicevic - Y and will be again
Matthew Greig - N
Ray Hall - U - been disappointing this season
Craig Biddiscombe - Y until he hurt his Knee since then ..er... N
Rory Hilton - U - see above Ray Hall
Greg Tivendale - Y

1999
Clay Sampson - N
Aaron Fiora - U - the time is now Aaron
Ezra Poyas - N
Scott Homewood - N a real disappointment
Andrew Mills - N
Ty Zantuck - Y
Leon Cameron - Y

2000
Kayne Pettifer -N
Mark Coughlan - Y
Chris Hyde - U - need to play him once and for all
Andrew J. Krakouer - Y long term
Chris Newman - Y
Steven Sziller - Y did what he was recruited to do
Ben Haynes - N - majot disappointment
Royce Vardy - Y - for the type of player he is

2001
David Rodan - Y
Adam L. Houlihan - N - didn't understand it then still don't
Chris Hyde - U see above
Martin McGrath - U
Paul Hudson - NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Greg Stafford - YYYYYYYYYYYY
Craig Ednie - N but I wouuld have kept him over KPettifer

2002
Jay Schulz - Y for the future
Tim Fleming - U
Bill Nicholls - U
Daniel Sipthorp - U for the future